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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Need QB, WR, RT, OLB, ILB, SS. Can use depth at DT/DE as well, and TE who can run block and catch.

    There's nothing here to really blow up, we need to fill the immense crater that is the Buffalo Bills.
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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    We have talent, it's just being misused by the coaching staff. A couple of upgrades that others have mentioned, plus fresh blood on the sideline will do wonders for this team.
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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    Personally, I have no interest in a full rebuild. But I do want a legit QB to be found in the off-season. Plus a new DC, ILB, and OLB.
    Well, you are NOT asking for much.

    ****! The way you put it, we are almost a contender.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
    Well, you are NOT asking for much.

    ****! The way you put it, we are almost a contender.
    Personally I think a legit QB alone would have won us one more game at least. Add in a solid starter at ILB and another at OLB and I can see another game at least.

    I think we'd be at 6 or 7 wins right now.

    Finding a legit QB is not easy but I do think finding a solid starter potential ILB and even OLB in one offseason is do-able.

    The scheme has to be fixed to cover the flat and seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    Personally I think a legit QB alone would have won us one more game at least. Add in a solid starter at ILB and another at OLB and I can see another game at least.

    I think we'd be at 6 or 7 wins right now.
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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    Personally, I have no interest in a full rebuild. But I do want a legit QB to be found in the off-season. Plus a new DC, ILB, and OLB.
    You keep trying these quick fixes, you can keep expecting to get the same results.
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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    We need in no order of importance besides the top 3...

    HC, QB, DC, SS, CB - 3 of them, LB - 3 of them, at least one OT, TE, WR - 2 of them, K - because apparently Lindell can't kick 50 yarders nor kick off.

    If that's not a team that needs a full tear down and rebuild I don't know what is.

    Who do you say are must keeps on this team right now?

    Spiller, Levitre, Wood, Mario, Kyle, Byrd and Sanborn. Am I missing anyone? By my calculations that's 3 of 11 on each side of the ball and a long snapper.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    You keep trying these quick fixes, you can keep expecting to get the same results.
    I'm just looking at the Pats, Tenn, and even this game as wins with a better QB, solid ILB and OLB.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Our OL played like trash today, last week as well, but fans overlook that because Spiller can make people miss and Fitz is just so terrible you overlook how bad Hairston and Urbik have been.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by kingJofNYC View Post
    Our OL played like trash today, last week as well, but fans overlook that because Spiller can make people miss and Fitz is just so terrible you overlook how bad Hairston and Urbik have been.
    Hairston did have a questionable game and the OL was weak today. Personally, I've been pleased with the unit overall. I think we have a decent line overall. I would upgrade Urbik though.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    Personally, I have no interest in a full rebuild. But I do want a legit QB to be found in the off-season. Plus a new DC, ILB, and OLB.
    add in one more wr i do like donald jones and i dont mind david nelson but we need a real number 2 WR also

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    Quote Originally Posted by djjimkelly View Post
    add in one more wr i do like donald jones and i dont mind david nelson but we need a real number 2 WR also
    Agreed. I want a bigger guy with speed. But I don't want it wasted with Fitz who can't throw accurately down field. Hunter, Allen, and Woods are guys I like.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    I'm just looking at the Pats, Tenn, and even this game as wins with a better QB, solid ILB and OLB.
    You've now gone from 1 position of need to 3.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    You've now gone from 1 position of need to 3.
    No. I've been consistent in what I think the needs are. QB, ILB, OLB are needs. WR, SS, OG are lesser needs IMO.

    QB is a huge task to fill. No idea how we will do that. I'm coming around to the thought of the top QB dropping to our pick and us going that route.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    My is Justin Rogers still on the field ? That guy sucks too.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by FunTimesYaY! View Post
    We need in no order of importance besides the top 3...

    HC, QB, DC, SS, CB - 3 of them, LB - 3 of them, at least one OT, TE, WR - 2 of them, K - because apparently Lindell can't kick 50 yarders nor kick off.

    If that's not a team that needs a full tear down and rebuild I don't know what is.

    Who do you say are must keeps on this team right now?

    Spiller, Levitre, Wood, Mario, Kyle, Byrd and Sanborn. Am I missing anyone? By my calculations that's 3 of 11 on each side of the ball and a long snapper.
    Those two (and McKelvin, at least) will probably bolt for greener pastures, and at this point I can't blame them.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    No. I've been consistent in what I think the needs are. QB, ILB, OLB are needs. WR, SS, OG are lesser needs IMO.

    QB is a huge task to fill. No idea how we will do that. I'm coming around to the thought of the top QB dropping to our pick and us going that route.
    And what about the issues with a general lack of depth, the issues with our other starting CB, the developing issue at RT and that doesn't begin to talk about the potential changes that will be needed with a new scheme being brought in by a new coaching staff.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

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    Those two (and McKelvin, at least) will probably bolt for greener pastures, and at this point I can't blame them.
    McKelvin can go. Returners are a dime a dozen in this league and McKelvin is garbage as a CB.

    The 7 guys I listed are the only guys who I think we MUST keep around for the next 3-5 years or so and build around. Stevie is iffy but he's really a possession type receiver who works underneath...those guys aren't that hard to really replace but there's no need to let him go anywhere because he's the only real WR this team has. Donald Jones or David Nelson are fine too but lower on the depth chart at the position.

    Everyone else on this team, IMO, are interchangeable parts where we can go get a middle tier FA who can do the same thing and then there are positions we need OBVIOUS upgrades. And that's not just at QB.

    We could likely survive Levitre going elsewhere to be honest but losing Byrd would be a travesty. Seeing good interior lineman are easier to find than ball hawking playmakers at FS. However, with a team full of holes, creating even more isn't a model for winning football.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    And what about the issues with a general lack of depth, the issues with our other starting CB, the developing issue at RT and that doesn't begin to talk about the potential changes that will be needed with a new scheme being brought in by a new coaching staff.
    That's why you interview candidates, and hire somebody that will tweak the intricacies without screwing the basics.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    That's why you interview candidates, and hire somebody that will tweak the intricacies without screwing the basics.
    Because those basics are working so well for us now?

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