View Poll Results: Who do you think is the Bills best Option at QB

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  • Matt Cassell

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  • Tyrod Taylor

    43 68.25%
  • EJ Manuel

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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    I wanted EJ to take the starting job, and although I don't think he played bad, I feel that the job is Taylor's to lose. I feel you have to put the guy on the field that will give you the most matchup problems. Cassel will be the backup for the season. I feel if Taylor gets hurt, then EJ takes the job, but if a QB has to come into the game because of injury or ineffectiveness, it will be Cassel.

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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    I picked Tyrod because thats who I think would be the started if the season started tomorrow. But I think that EJ has played very well compared to previous years and that he has earned the chance to play with the ones and fight for the starting nod. Unfortunately, I'm not sure the coaching staff feels the same way.

    Also for those saying that oh Tyrod didnt have all the starters and he played above average (I struggle to call it great), EJ didnt have a single starter, yeah he played against worse competition but he also got 0 help from his O-line and his WR's and he still managed to lead a game winning drive (which he has done multiple times in his career now). Granted he was playing against worse competition but not playing with the best players has to go both ways. Its cant be a positive for Tyrod and a negative for EJ.

    Cassel is what he is, and I dont think that hes a starter. But we'll see what happens this week and what the coaching staff says now.

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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    I have to pick one of those?

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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    Cassel

    Taylor as exciting as he can be will be figured out by DC's in no time. Make him beat you with his passing and not his legs and it will all be most likely over. I don't see a consistent passer in him. The running style is also the quickest way to the injury report.

    EJ is just not reliable. He'll have a great play followed by air mailing a pass 5 yards off the mark. His inaccuracy is the stuff of legends. Certainly not him.

    MC is very unspectacular but for the most part the one better suited for what we need which is average play with little mistakes. He is also the most experienced.

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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    Quote Originally Posted by Victor7 View Post
    Cassel

    Taylor as exciting as he can be will be figured out by DC's in no time. Make him beat you with his passing and not his legs and it will all be most likely over. I don't see a consistent passer in him. The running style is also the quickest way to the injury report.

    EJ is just not reliable. He'll have a great play followed by air mailing a pass 5 yards off the mark. His inaccuracy is the stuff of legends. Certainly not him.

    MC is very unspectacular but for the most part the one better suited for what we need which is average play with little mistakes. He is also the most experienced.
    And you don't think teams will know how to defend against Cassel?

    Just stack the line of scrimmage & dare him to throw downfield.

    And that will make running the ball more difficult as well.

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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    EJ should be the starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    And you don't think teams will know how to defend against Cassel?

    Just stack the line of scrimmage & dare him to throw downfield.

    And that will make running the ball more difficult as well.
    Lets go then

    With Sammy and Harvin I'll take my chances.

    Teams will stack the line vs whoever we send out there anyway. We are a running team. We have to be able to overcome that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HHURRICANE View Post
    Cassel's lack of playing last night tells me that Tyrod had to win the job last night. Not sure he did that. Coaches have to be leaning towards the vet and so am I.
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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    Quote Originally Posted by Yasgur's Farm View Post
    Why I voted for EJ...

    QB Box Score through scrimmage and 2nd preseason game...

    Manuel - 18/33 - 292 yds - 8.85 yds/a - 3 td's - 0 int's - 117.23 pr
    Taylor - 20/31 - 191 yds - 6.16 yds/a - 0 td's - 0 int's - 81.52 pr
    Cassel - 9/14 - 72 yds - 5.14 yds/a - 0 td's - 0 int's - 77.08 pr

    That's not just a small difference!
    Ummmm... EJ only threw 2 touchdowns.

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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    Quote Originally Posted by ublinkwescore View Post
    Ummmm... EJ only threw 2 touchdowns.
    Read again...

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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    Quote Originally Posted by Yasgur's Farm View Post
    Why I voted for EJ...

    QB Box Score through scrimmage and 2nd preseason game...

    Manuel - 18/33 - 292 yds - 8.85 yds/a - 3 td's - 0 int's - 117.23 pr
    Taylor - 20/31 - 191 yds - 6.16 yds/a - 0 td's - 0 int's - 81.52 pr
    Cassel - 9/14 - 72 yds - 5.14 yds/a - 0 td's - 0 int's - 77.08 pr

    That's not just a small difference!
    yet the guys who play with the starteres are more consistent when you watch the game. they don't take the sack. they don't worm burn passes. they don't have 3 and outs. that was the difference between tyrod and ej. ej had three and outs. and some of his longer drives required penalities to extend it. even the 4th down on the winning pass had like 2 redos.

    with limited game planning, the other two show a consistency with the offens. and that is something we didn't have last year. we had a pile of 3 and outs. how many times last year did we say, "we could have won if we just had one drive." well you have two guys not named EJ who have shown that thus far.

    i like Ej and hope he gets it, but i don't see a difference from his rookie year to his 3rd year. that's the problem. the ej haters point that out and they want to see him fail. as a guy who likes ej, i see that weakness and point that out.

    the bills have to select a qb from a weak crop. liking the best of the crop doesn't say that they are allstars.

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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    I would give EJ first team reps this week, then start him game 3.

    Trick or treat game for him. By half time, the decision should be more obvious.

    I am pleasantly surprised by the offense this preseason, which I attribute to Roman and a better O line.

    I feel like we know Cassell and Tyrod.

    I don't think we know the 2015 EJ, but he sure looks better than in the past. I really wonder if the difference in practice/meetings is so significant that the clear demotion is warranted, because I sure don't see a differentiation in games.

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    I don't want any bills qb to fail. But I damn sure don't want any thing less than the best possible qb hitting the field for Buffalo. That qb is, without a doubt at this very moment, Tyrod "the Terminator"Taylor.

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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    Quote Originally Posted by ublinkwescore View Post
    I don't want any bills qb to fail. But I damn sure don't want any thing less than the best possible qb hitting the field for Buffalo. That qb is, without a doubt at this very moment, Tyrod "the Terminator"Taylor.
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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    Enough with the dink and dunk bull****. Watch this highlight film.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...lor-highlights

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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    Quote Originally Posted by BuffaloRedleg View Post
    Enough with the dink and dunk bull****. Watch this highlight film.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...lor-highlights
    2 of his passes went for 45 yards. His other 8 passes gained 20 yards. What do you call that?

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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    2 of his passes went for 45 yards. His other 8 passes gained 20 yards. What do you call that?
    What world do you live in where those aren't normal stats even for pretty good QBs? I bet if you looked at the typical distribution of good QBs those would line up pretty well.

    Peyton Manning's career Yard per Attempt is 7.7. Tyrod averageg 6.5, with every single starting WR and RB injured. Plus he rushed for 41 yards.

    The video also doesn't include the 2 times he through deep and they were dropped.

    I'm confident you never watched the game.
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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    Quote Originally Posted by BuffaloRedleg View Post
    What world do you live in where those aren't normal stats even for pretty good QBs? I bet if you looked at the typical distribution of good QBs those would line up pretty well.

    The video also doesn't include the 2 times he through deep and they were dropped.

    I'm confident you never watched the game.
    You be confident in that all you want.

    Taylor is a run first QB who more often than not is gonna throw 3-5 yard dumpoffs. The same thing QBs have done here since Bledsoe left and the same thing everyone on this board has hated. When he does actually throw the ball he's no different than Cassel, Edwards, Manuel, Fitz, Holcomb. But the difference is he can run around and that gets people excited!

    He's a running back who throws the ball a little. No more, no less.

    The funny part is this is a board who constantly lambasted Michael Vick for his playing style and Vick is 100 times the QB that Taylor will ever be.

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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    You be confident in that all you want.

    Taylor is a run first QB who more often than not is gonna throw 3-5 yard dumpoffs. The same thing QBs have done here since Bledsoe left and the same thing everyone on this board has hated. When he does actually throw the ball he's no different than Cassel, Edwards, Manuel, Fitz, Holcomb. But the difference is he can run around and that gets people excited!

    He's a running back who throws the ball a little. No more, no less.

    The funny part is this is a board who constantly lambasted Michael Vick for his playing style and Vick is 100 times the QB that Taylor will ever be.
    You can think what you want and you may be right, but the evidence of yesterday's game suggests otherwise. He was not dink and dunk and he tried to stretch the field. He didn't have any regular starters at skill positions on offense and still moved the ball on long sustained drives, including I think 3 3rd and longs through the air.

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    Re: Who is your starting QB

    Quote Originally Posted by BuffaloRedleg View Post
    You can think what you want and you may be right, but the evidence of yesterday's game suggests otherwise. He was not dink and dunk and he tried to stretch the field. He didn't have any regular starters at skill positions on offense and still moved the ball on long sustained drives, including I think 3 3rd and longs through the air.
    The difference between Tyrod & those other QB's is Tyrod threw the ball at least NEAR the LOS on 3rd down sometimes well past the distance needed to pick up the first down.

    ALL the others including Cassel would throw well short of the first down & it was not likely the team would pick up the first down.

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