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    So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/10/01/a...0-things-think

    4. I think the Bills found their offensive formula at Miami with a game plan that featured play-action, go routes, dumpoffs in the flats and the occasional moving pocket or misdirection design. The common thread here? All of these tactics define the read for the quarterback. Instead of dropping back and scanning the entire field—which Buffalo’s heavy doses of isolation routes demanded in the loss to the Patriots—Tyrod Taylor could drop back and look for one specific target for whom the play was designed. Bills offensive coordinator Greg Roman will have to call this sort of game again when his team hosts an overachieving, highly aggressive Giants defense Sunday.

    From my memory though, I think there were multiple options for Tyrod in the moving pocket even though he's only reading half the field. The moving pocket gave Tyrod more time to find his target.

    Let's see what the Giants do trying to force Tyrod read the entire field like the Pats. It'll be a season long adjustment and counter adjustment for Tyrod.

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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    Sounds like the players are getting something this team hasn't had in 15 + years.

    Coaching with successfull adjustments.

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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    So we have a short RGIII. A guy that can make one read?
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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    Quote Originally Posted by casdhf View Post
    So we have a short RGIII. A guy that can make one read?
    If this is what your eyes are telling you..... Maybe you should get them checked,
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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    As his time here goes on, I become more and more impressed with Greg Roman.

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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    Don't know that this is much different than what Seattle did with Wilson. And with some of the best QBs getting the ball out in 1.2 seconds I really can't imagine they are going thru progressions. It looks to me simply a function of play design, gameplan and scheme. Nothing specific to Tyrod in particular. Now the super deep drops, the rolling out (especially to his left) and the moving pocket are all done to give a shorter QB a better view of the passing lanes. But again that's as much Wilson as Tyrod.

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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    Hogan was like the 4th option on his td pass. Taylor helped us to 32 points during the pats game. Not buying this fully one way or the other. We probably use a lot of both as all teams do. Except the niners. Kaep sucks.

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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    I think there's probably a handful of QBs that read the entire field on pass plays. The rest probably read half and some are one read only.

    As long as it keeps working, who cares.

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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    if a coach saw somethign didn't work, changed it so that it worked, the qb now has to be ready to change. He has to say, "ok, i see why the simplification worked, but i also now understand some of the nuance you were trying before."

    If that happens, tyrod will keep getting better.
    if it doesn't happen, he's going to plateau, because better teams with better talent than miami will exploit simplicity.

    i still like Tt's demeanor and think he will keep improving as we get to the bye.

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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    It seems like Tyrod is good at reading half the field. He doesn't lock on one target. But, when his primary target is on one side, it seems like he isn't mentally quick enough to scan all the way to the other side. For all intents and purposes, he's a rookie in his first live NFL action. It's going to take a while for the game to slow down for him, but when it does, he should be able to see the whole field and not have to cut his options in half.

    With that said, one of the biggest issues I have so far is the Red Zone offense. It seems like they're giving him one side of the field to work with with limited options on that side. Much like the end of the Super Bowl when Kap rolled out and had just one target or the choice to run. Didn't work when they had double coverage and double spies on that side. Give Tyrod more options in the Red Zone!
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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    Is this the best OC we've had since Ted Marchibroda? Looking that way.

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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    If there's one thing not to complain about is our red zone. We are 83 percent if I remember correctly
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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    Quote Originally Posted by kscdogbillsfan1221 View Post
    If there's one thing not to complain about is our red zone. We are 83 percent if I remember correctly
    Holy crap. That's 2nd in the league. I did not realize. Hope we keep it up!

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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    Meanwhile, how is Kaep doing in SF? He's struggling without Roman.

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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    As he develops plays more and becomes more accustomed to the offense this will change. Regardless who cares it is smart coaching and the player is executing it very well after 3 starts.

    Just another case of people trying to protect their projections of bills sucking by finding an example of something we are doing and finding fault in it.

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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    you gotta be kidding

    tyrod isnt ready to be put with the best qbs in the league who you can say see the whole field but cmon, hes been finding guys way past one read every game hes played

    theres probably some truth to what the author was pointing out, but to say the game has to be simplified for him is silly
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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Train View Post
    Sounds like the players are getting something this team hasn't had in 15 + years.

    Coaching with successfull adjustments.
    Agree. If a coach can't adjust, he shouldn't expect his qb to read.
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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    Quote Originally Posted by WagonCircler View Post
    As his time here goes on, I become more and more impressed with Greg Roman.
    Can you imagine if we still had Nate Hackett?

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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    I think some are over-looking the fact that all QB's make pre-snap reads based on the defenses formation, movement, etc, (well, they should be) so none are really 'one-read' guys. Good ones know where they are going with the ball before it is even snapped and function as a 'one read' anyway. The better ones know the offense well enough to go to a second or third 'read' if they ****ed up the pre-snap read.

    If Taylor has the ability to read a pre-snap well enough to get rid of the ball successfully on one read post-snap on a consistent basis I'm really OK with that.
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    Re: So Roman simplified read for Tyrod in the Dolphins game ...

    I think it's lost on everyone that it was a 5 point game with 4 minutes left with the Pats. Rex got everyone over fired which Marv did many times in big games.

    Tyrod doesn't need the offense dumbed down. Coaches needed to adjust and they did.

    Tyrod is going to be a Superstar in this league.

    The Giants play a very similar gameplan to the Pats. Let's see if the Bills adjust correctly.

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