Is Mike Mayock losing his credibility here?

[swiper]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...o-andrew-luck/

I mean, c'mon. Really?

[DraftBoy]

It's the way of the national draft analysts. You gotta find your guy every year and you better sell him hard and hope you're right.

Wentz is a good prospect, but I don't think he's in Luck's class, but Mayock would know more than me.

[swiper]

Wait. Maybe Mayock's not as credible as reported when he originally hit the national scene as a "draft expert:"

(Of course, he also preferred Blaine Gabbert to Cam Newton in 2011, so take it for what it’s worth.)

[OpIv37]

It's typical draft posturing.

It takes 2-3 seasons to make an accurate judgment on whether a QB is going to amount to anything. If Mayock is right, he will remind everyone of this and look like a genius. If he's wrong, he will keep his mouth shut and it'll be long forgotten.

It's low risk, high reward.

[MikeInRoch]

Don't tell that to half the board. You can judge a draft pick solely from his first pre-season game.

[OpIv37]

Don't tell that to half the board. You can judge a draft pick solely from his first pre-season game.

Hey, don't knock All-Pro QB Jeff Tuel.

[cookie G]

Wait. Maybe Mayock's not as credible as reported when he originally hit the national scene as a "draft expert:"

I like to listen to Mayock, but he did have a lovefest for Gabbert. I wondered whether he was buddies with Gabbert's agent.

Much of what he said about Gabbert was true, he had plenty of physical tools, but he never mentioned Gabbert's lack of production at Mizzou, or his jitteriness in the pocket. His predecessor, the less talented Chase Daniel, blew him away in the productivity.

eh..it happens at times. Years ago, Ozzie Newsome had Jamarcus Russell as his highest rated player in that draft.

I wouldn't shy away from hiring Ozzie as my GM.

[stuckincincy]

I like to listen to Mayock, but he did have a lovefest for Gabbert. I wondered whether he was buddies with Gabbert's agent.

Much of what he said about Gabbert was true, he had plenty of physical tools, but he never mentioned Gabbert's lack of production at Mizzou, or his jitteriness in the pocket. His predecessor, the less talented Chase Daniel, blew him away in the productivity.

eh..it happens at times. Years ago, Ozzie Newsome had Jamarcus Russell as his highest rated player in that draft.

I wouldn't shy away from hiring Ozzie as my GM.

Good post.

[Mace]

I don't make too much of it. I'm not sure where Luck's ceiling is atm after 4 years. Colts success with him so far is because they've feasted on division opponents. Outside their division Luck is a .500 QB. Could Wentz manage .500 against the league in general ?

Then again, I'm not sure what Luck's ceiling is after 4 years, and like Cookie said, everyone is wrong sometimes.

I love listening to Mayock, but I kind of realize I don't even know how accurate he is, I don't ever really pay attention to his conclusions as much as all the stuff he gives you to chew on about a prospect.

[k-oneputt]

Don't tell that to half the board. You can judge a draft pick solely from his first pre-season game.

If I recall half the board knew EJ sucked before he threw one pass in Buffalo.

[swiper]

If I recall half the board knew EJ sucked before he threw one pass in Buffalo.

That half of the board look like geniuses now.

[k-oneputt]

That half of the board look like geniuses now.

Not really, just stated the obvious if you watched him play at FSU.