Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

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  • kscdogbillsfan1221
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    • Nov 2007
    • 5651

    #46
    Re: Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

    Originally posted by Mad Max View Post
    You’re baits gonna catch a big old guppy
    I’m honestly not trying to bait

    this was the first example I had
    I came.
    I saw.
    I conquered.

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    • Mad Max
      Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat
      • Mar 2003
      • 6698

      #47
      Re: Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

      Originally posted by kscdogbillsfan1221 View Post
      I’m honestly not trying to bait

      this was the first example I had
      I know you weren’t but the guppy can’t resist that topic as chum usually.

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      • Forward_Lateral
        Registered User
        • Mar 2004
        • 29895

        #48
        Re: Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

        Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
        EVERYONE should be upset, not so much that we lost guys but that we're trying to replace ALL of them with completely unproven backups. But hey, it worked ONCE with Edmunds, so no need to be concerned, right?

        It's one thing to get rid of players who are clearly declining, but it's another thing to just expect all their inexperienced backups to come in and play at the same level.
        Who have they replaced with inexperienced backups??

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        • Ginger Vitis
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          • Feb 2009
          • 3451

          #49
          Re: Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

          OPIV constantly makes references to the salary cap and brings up the salary cap endlessly.. but he doesn't know the basic s of how nfl salary caps work lol

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          • kgun12
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            • Jul 2002
            • 11315

            #50
            Re: Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

            Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
            EVERYONE should be upset, not so much that we lost guys but that we're trying to replace ALL of them with completely unproven backups. But hey, it worked ONCE with Edmunds, so no need to be concerned, right?

            It's one thing to get rid of players who are clearly declining, but it's another thing to just expect all their inexperienced backups to come in and play at the same level.
            Almost nobody and I mean almost nobody on this board was excited when the Bills brought in Hyde and Poyer. I honk that’s where my optimism comes from. I think Beans has done a pretty good job with these accusations. Not all by most and there probably isn’t one person on this board that is surprised by your suicidal reaction to the signings. You would be negative no matter who they signed.
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            • sukie
              Seriously?
              • Sep 2012
              • 21506

              #51
              Re: Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
              And you think that's just going to keep panning out with everyone we lost? That every backup we have is better than an all pro starter? Ok...
              Gabe sucked hard to be worse
              Diggs obviously was an issue

              Hyde and Tre didn’t play much last two years

              morse isn’t nearly the Morse of old.

              so who else?

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              • OpIv37
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                • Sep 2002
                • 101230

                #52
                Re: Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

                Originally posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
                Who have they replaced with inexperienced backups??
                All of them. They literally added nobody at the positions we lost.
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                • OpIv37
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                  • Sep 2002
                  • 101230

                  #53
                  Re: Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

                  Originally posted by sukie View Post
                  Gabe sucked hard to be worse
                  Diggs obviously was an issue

                  Hyde and Tre didn’t play much last two years

                  morse isn’t nearly the Morse of old.

                  so who else?
                  See, you’re confusing two different issues. No, Morse was not the Morse of old. But, we also don’t have anyone on the roster who can play C equal to or better than what Morse did last year. Same for Diggs and Davis. Maybe Shakir but he can’t replace both.
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                  • sukie
                    Seriously?
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 21506

                    #54
                    Re: Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

                    Again you said 6 lost . Who? Dont mention my list. Who is the loss that is not replaced. You have zero idea how the kid will play at center where he has played before so shown… who was the big loss?

                    Poyer?

                    Diggs and his lack of big game production?

                    I know you aren’t opening about the Gabe Davis subtraction.


                    where is the massive insurmountable loss? It isn’t at center.

                    it isn’t at CB.

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                    • OpIv37
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                      • Sep 2002
                      • 101230

                      #55
                      Re: Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

                      Originally posted by sukie View Post
                      Again you said 6 lost . Who? Dont mention my list. Who is the loss that is not replaced. You have zero idea how the kid will play at center where he has played before so shown… who was the big loss?

                      Poyer?

                      Diggs and his lack of big game production?

                      I know you aren’t opening about the Gabe Davis subtraction.


                      where is the massive insurmountable loss? It isn’t at center.

                      it isn’t at CB.
                      No one has any idea how the kids will play. We lost Diggs, Davis, Poyer, White, Hyde and Morse. Expecting the kids to step up and play well enough to replace all of that…. Just insanity. Yes, they were all past their prime but it’s still a talent deficit. We have no one proven to be equal or better.

                      It’s drought era thinking. During the drought, the team was actually good at not overpaying guys and getting rid of aging vets. The mistake that they consistently made was expecting to replace them with “next man up!” That’s what’s happening here.
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                      • kscdogbillsfan1221
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                        • Nov 2007
                        • 5651

                        #56
                        Re: Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

                        Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                        No one has any idea how the kids will play. We lost Diggs, Davis, Poyer, White, Hyde and Morse. Expecting the kids to step up and play well enough to replace all of that…. Just insanity. Yes, they were all past their prime but it’s still a talent deficit. We have no one proven to be equal or better.

                        It’s drought era thinking. During the drought, the team was actually good at not overpaying guys and getting rid of aging vets. The mistake that they consistently made was expecting to replace them with “next man up!” That’s what’s happening here.
                        Jesus dude, you’re incorrigible

                        Mike Edwards 2 time Super Bowl champ (replacing Hyde/poyer) isn’t a ‘kid’
                        Taylor rapp isn’t a ‘kid’ (replacing Hyde/poyer)
                        Curtis Samuel isn’t a ‘kid’ (replacing one of the wr)
                        Tre whites replacement (Douglas / benford) aren’t kids

                        I’ll give you McGovern as we don’t know what we are getting

                        and the two wr we need in the draft are kids

                        but to act like we are just winging it with replacements is just false
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                        • Mad Max
                          Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 6698

                          #57
                          Re: Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

                          Originally posted by kscdogbillsfan1221 View Post
                          Jesus dude, you’re incorrigible

                          Mike Edwards 2 time Super Bowl champ (replacing Hyde/poyer) isn’t a ‘kid’
                          Taylor rapp isn’t a ‘kid’ (replacing Hyde/poyer)
                          Curtis Samuel isn’t a ‘kid’ (replacing one of the wr)
                          Tre whites replacement (Douglas / benford) aren’t kids

                          I’ll give you McGovern as we don’t know what we are getting

                          and the two wr we need in the draft are kids

                          but to act like we are just winging it with replacements is just false
                          Don’t confuse Opie with facts.

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                          • OpIv37
                            Acid Douching Asswipe
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 101230

                            #58
                            Re: Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

                            Originally posted by kscdogbillsfan1221 View Post
                            Jesus dude, you’re incorrigible

                            Mike Edwards 2 time Super Bowl champ (replacing Hyde/poyer) isn’t a ‘kid’
                            Taylor rapp isn’t a ‘kid’ (replacing Hyde/poyer)
                            Curtis Samuel isn’t a ‘kid’ (replacing one of the wr)
                            Tre whites replacement (Douglas / benford) aren’t kids

                            I’ll give you McGovern as we don’t know what we are getting

                            and the two wr we need in the draft are kids

                            but to act like we are just winging it with replacements is just false
                            Rapp was the backup. Douglas was brought in to complement White, not replace him, but I’ll give you that Benford spent most of the season playing for White anyway. Samuel not being a kid doesn’t mean he’s good enough to replace Diggs. You already said McGovern is a question mark. I’ll admit I don’t know much about Edwards but one can’t replace two.
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                            • sukie
                              Seriously?
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 21506

                              #59
                              Re: Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

                              Rapp back used the Bills to a division title… crushing Fin nation.

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                              • sukie
                                Seriously?
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 21506

                                #60
                                Re: Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

                                Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                                No one has any idea how the kids will play. We lost Diggs, Davis, Poyer, White, Hyde and Morse. Expecting the kids to step up and play well enough to replace all of that…. Just insanity. Yes, they were all past their prime but it’s still a talent deficit. We have no one proven to be equal or better.

                                It’s drought era thinking. During the drought, the team was actually good at not overpaying guys and getting rid of aging vets. The mistake that they consistently made was expecting to replace them with “next man up!” That’s what’s happening here.
                                Once again… read slowly.

                                Diggs. Okay a replacement is needed as a 1. He really wasn’t all that irreplaceable down the home stretch though

                                Tre and Hyde WERE replaced already the last 2 years. When they came back briefly… they were kinda the backups playing spot duty.

                                Milano will be back so LB is improved.

                                Poyer played un poyer-like. Easy replaced talent at its current level.

                                morse McGovern… meh probably will be seen as close to a wash if not an improvement. Morse is old and can’t remember where he left his keys some days,

                                so let’s talk about Gabe Davis… what about his stellar play cannot be replaced ?

                                it seems to me that you are thinking the Bills are suddenly missing the Tre, Poyer, Hyde and Morse of 2021. And Gabe from that KC game.

                                hell I’d rather Shakir get the Davis Balls . He will catch them at least.

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