Would you want Vanek back ??

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  • coastal
    Legendary Zoner
    • Mar 2005
    • 15503

    #31
    Re: Would you want Vanek back ??

    Originally posted by trapezeus View Post
    i think that wreaks havoc on a locker room.
    Exactly

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    • MitchMurrayDowntown
      Skoobasaurus-Rex
      • Oct 2011
      • 22263

      #32
      Re: Would you want Vanek back ??

      So if he came back at the right price & played on the 3rd line, then you're all in ??

      Originally posted by trapezeus View Post
      he hasn't scored a goal in the playoffs yet.

      He seems to be the same old Vanish.

      i agree he can be a valuable player. but he isn't a guy you build around. if you can stash him on a 3rd line and have the talent on the front 2, then yes, you should get him. but he never wanted to be the man. and when you try to make him the man, he resists. but he can put up points. so the worst scenario occurs. you have a guy who has the production as a high point scorer without the mindframe of a high goal scorer. Which ultimately means you have to pay him like a star when he doesn't want to be one.

      and frankly i think that wreaks havoc on a locker room.

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      • trapezeus
        Legendary Zoner
        • Oct 2004
        • 19525

        #33
        Re: Would you want Vanek back ??

        not sure. i'd like to know my other options. but cost would be a big deal. but lindy didn't get to him, his short stint in montreal and LI didn't change him and his time in Minny hasn't changed him. i don't know if there is a coach thatcan tap into him and get him to be consistent.

        i'd rather err on the side of youth with more upside than a former sabre who has seen his best days.

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        • JATMtheJATM
          Registered User
          • Aug 2012
          • 58558

          #34
          Re: Would you want Vanek back ??

          Originally posted by trapezeus View Post
          he hasn't scored a goal in the playoffs yet.

          He seems to be the same old Vanish.

          i agree he can be a valuable player. but he isn't a guy you build around. if you can stash him on a 3rd line and have the talent on the front 2, then yes, you should get him. but he never wanted to be the man. and when you try to make him the man, he resists. but he can put up points. so the worst scenario occurs. you have a guy who has the production as a high point scorer without the mindframe of a high goal scorer. Which ultimately means you have to pay him like a star when he doesn't want to be one.

          and frankly i think that wreaks havoc on a locker room.
          Yeah, but who said anything about building around him? Question was, would you want him back. Given the current state of the team and it's need for scoring, short answer from my end is yes. Multiple variables eventually come into play, all of which can change the response.
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          • trapezeus
            Legendary Zoner
            • Oct 2004
            • 19525

            #35
            Re: Would you want Vanek back ??

            i don't think he offers much from a vet standpoint. i think of the older statemen you have on the team, they need to have been polished or just show a great work ethic. you bring in a former $10MM a year guy who got a second chance with the team he never excelled on? what does that say?

            i'd rather take a lower ceiling guy.

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            • JATMtheJATM
              Registered User
              • Aug 2012
              • 58558

              #36
              Re: Would you want Vanek back ??

              Originally posted by trapezeus View Post
              i don't think he offers much from a vet standpoint. i think of the older statemen you have on the team, they need to have been polished or just show a great work ethic. you bring in a former $10MM a year guy who got a second chance with the team he never excelled on? what does that say?

              i'd rather take a lower ceiling guy.
              personally, i think you are reading too much into it. sometimes, you bring in a player simply to fill a spot or a role. right now, thats what vanek would be doing. sabres are painfully weak on the wings, and have very little offense. thatll change once the youth develops, but bringing vanek back would be a big bump in offense in the meantime.

              of course, this is all hypothetical. is he rumored to be available? no. are their other options? yes. what would you give up to get him? lots of questions over something that isnt happening.
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              • coastal
                Legendary Zoner
                • Mar 2005
                • 15503

                #37
                Re: Would you want Vanek back ??

                So this is nothing more than a skooby troll thread?

                shocking

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                • JATMtheJATM
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 58558

                  #38
                  Re: Would you want Vanek back ??

                  Originally posted by coastal View Post
                  So this is nothing more than a skooby troll thread?

                  shocking
                  Well, yeah.
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                  • MitchMurrayDowntown
                    Skoobasaurus-Rex
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 22263

                    #39
                    Re: Would you want Vanek back ??

                    Originally posted by coastal View Post
                    So this is nothing more than a skooby troll thread?

                    shocking
                    Until Vanek gets cut, you hear his name lately ??

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                    • Ingtar33
                      Dances With Buffaloes
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 15400

                      #40
                      Re: Would you want Vanek back ??

                      and how many 20 goal scores does this team have?

                      you grab all the offense you can to support that young talent in the center. Vanek - Eichel - Kane looks like a legit no.1 line to me. all that talent probably should result in someone reaching 40 goals and someone scraping up to 100 points. We just tanked two straight years. i could care less if we tank a 3rd, but i can't watch the type of hockey they're playing right now. right now they're unwatchable. Lets load up on some offensive talent, forget goal and defense and see what happens. We'll likely be in the lotto again next year but at least we won't be painful to watch.

                      I'd rather we grab whatever 20+ goal wing talent we can get our hands on and see what happens.
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                      • Ginger Vitis
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 3447

                        #41
                        Re: Would you want Vanek back ??

                        Originally posted by Ingtar33 View Post
                        Vanek - Eichel - Kane looks like a legit no.1 line to me. all that talent probably should result in someone reaching 40 goals and someone scraping up to 100 points. We just tanked two straight years.
                        Scraping up to a 100 points? Jamie Benn lead the league with 87 points no one on that proposed line is coming close to 100 points next year

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                        • Ingtar33
                          Dances With Buffaloes
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 15400

                          #42
                          Re: Would you want Vanek back ??

                          Originally posted by Ginger Vitis View Post
                          Jamie Benn lead the league with 87 points
                          you're kidding me. if that's the case then the nhl has a scoring problem of epic proportions. that's worse then before the lockout inspired changes.
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                          • JATMtheJATM
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 58558

                            #43
                            Re: Would you want Vanek back ??

                            Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                            Until Vanek gets cut, you hear his name lately ??
                            If they buy him out, we can hash this out.
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                            • rbochan
                              Zamboni Driver
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 5060

                              #44
                              Re: Would you want Vanek back ??

                              Originally posted by Ingtar33 View Post
                              you're kidding me. if that's the case then the nhl has a scoring problem of epic proportions...
                              yes. Yes it does.
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