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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    I like the idea... Whether it comes to fruition or not is a completely different story.

    I've said it multiple times before... Even if they renovate the Ralph, in 10 years, it's gonna be obsolete again. I read a prefect analogy on this: How many times do you fix an old, used car before you just bite the bullet and invest in a new one? RWS will be 40 years old next year... That's ancient in NFL terms.

    While I understand people wanting Bills games to be an open air environment, this isn't the 90's anymore. IMO, any "weather advantage" they had is gone and has been gone for a while. Also, keep in mind, per NFL rules, in retractable roof stadiums, the Home Team gets to designate whether the roof is open or closed. So, if the Bills really felt that the weather would assist them, they could elect to have the roof open.

    As others have said, a retractable roof opens doors for a multitude of events including, but not limited to, Concerts, NCAA Tournaments, Soccer World Cups, WrestleManias and Super Bowls.

    Finally, who gives a damn what Russ Brandon thinks? I'd about bet that his days with the Bills are just as numbered as Ralph Wilson's. In other words, once Ralph is gone, Brandon will be as well. This is obviously a plan for after Wilson is gone, as this sort of project would take a few years to complete.

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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    What is this teams record in indoor stadiums currently? anyone know?

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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEyE View Post
    Extremely over-priced. They could cut significant cost by excluding the retractable roof. But then I guess it seconding as a convention center would also go out the window.
    Host a Super Bowl

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    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    A retractable dome is essentially a dome because it will never be open in bad weather. It cedes the advantage to our opponents, especially Miami.

    I also don't see any parking lots for tailgating in that mock-up.

    Also, if Buffalo gets a stadium that costs more than $600 million or so, say hello to PSL's, which means saying goodbye to probably 10k season ticket holders who won't fork over the dough.
    Host a Super Bowl and maybe if Toronto ever gets the Olympics

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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    Quote Originally Posted by Extremebillsfan247 View Post
    What is this teams record in indoor stadiums currently? anyone know?
    Well, since Gailey took over in 2010, the Bills are 2-3 indoors.

    2010: 0-2... Losses at Minnesota and against Chicago (Toronto)
    2011: 1-1... Win against Washington (Toronto) and loss at Dallas
    2012: 1-0... Win at Arizona

    .400 is better than .333, which is Gailey's overall winning percentage while in Buffalo (13-26).

    Small sample size, I realize, but accurate for the current regime.

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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    Quote Originally Posted by BLeonard View Post
    Well, since Gailey took over in 2010, the Bills are 2-3 indoors.

    2010: 0-2... Losses at Minnesota and against Chicago (Toronto)
    2011: 1-1... Win against Washington (Toronto) and loss at Dallas
    2012: 1-0... Win at Arizona

    .400 is better than .333, which is Gailey's overall winning percentage while in Buffalo (13-26).

    Small sample size, I realize, but accurate for the current regime.

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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    Quote Originally Posted by mrbojanglezs View Post
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    Russ puts an end to this. Also makes sarcastic remarks towards Buffalo. Can't stand this clown he has also ripped fans in the past for not attending Decemeber games
    Russ just knows that when Ralph sells or goes to the great hall of fame in the sky, he's going to be irrelevant. He's protecting his current job since his current boss would never entertain this. Still, he's a douche.
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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    Dome is fine by me.

    Remember I am one of the few stiffs actually sitting in the freezing cold why the rest of you bums are sitting on your couches.

    We suck anyways who cares about the weather advantage?

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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    Quote Originally Posted by BuffaloWingEater View Post
    Host a Super Bowl

    Host a Super Bowl and maybe if Toronto ever gets the Olympics
    Buffalo? A Super Bowl? LOL...are you going to let the camera crews sleep in your house?
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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    Quote Originally Posted by THATHURMANATOR View Post
    Dome is fine by me.

    Remember I am one of the few stiffs actually sitting in the freezing cold why the rest of you bums are sitting on your couches.

    We suck anyways who cares about the weather advantage?
    If a dome is in the future, I see no need for a retractable roof myself. I just don't think a retractable roof is worth the money.

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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    I think you missed the point: if they're never going to open it, then it doesn't have to be retractable. It's a waste of money.

    And no, the tailgating thing is not ridiculous. It's part of the Bills experience and it's what keeps Bills fans coming when the team sucks, particularly late in the year. If the team can get 10+ wins a season, you're right, the tailgating won't matter. But they can't. Take away the tailgating, and you'll be lucky to get 20k to show up for those meaningless December games.
    I would rather go to bars downtown and watch a game in a nice warm dome than tailgate when it's 20 degrees out.

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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    I'm uncertain that a roof of that type would work well. That's a lot of surface area for accumulation of snow. Accumulated snow can get very heavy. The danger in that alone shouldn't be hard to imagine judging by this model. JMO

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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    Quote Originally Posted by Extremebillsfan247 View Post
    I'm uncertain that a roof of that type would work well. That's a lot of surface area for accumulation of snow. Accumulated snow can get very heavy. The danger in that alone shouldn't be hard to imagine judging by this model. JMO
    They can install heated pipes to melt the snow as it falls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    If a dome is in the future, I see no need for a retractable roof myself. I just don't think a retractable roof is worth the money.
    I don't disagree.

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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    Keep in mind this location isn't within walking distance to any Downtown bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THATHURMANATOR View Post
    Keep in mind this location isn't within walking distance to any Downtown bars.
    That's why they can install a rail system like the sabres have. To go from downtown to the entertainment complex. Would be good for concerts etc......

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    Quote Originally Posted by HurkeyNuts View Post
    That's why they can install a rail system like the sabres have. To go from downtown to the entertainment complex. Would be good for concerts etc......
    Yes that would be nice!

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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    Quote Originally Posted by THATHURMANATOR View Post
    Keep in mind this location isn't within walking distance to any Downtown bars.
    Just curious, what's the estimation about how far to the nearest bar?
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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    Today a plan will be presented to the Common Council that proposes a 72,000-seat, retractable-roof stadium, which can double as a convention center, as the centerpiece of a $1.4 billion project on outer harbor land owned by the Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority.
    ...envision surface and covered parking for 5,000, as well as hotel and retail and dining establishments.
    Re: the $1.4 Billion - From reading the article, it sounds like the entire waterfront development would be $1.4 billion, not just the stadium. The stadium would be the bulk of it, and the centerpiece, but a lot of that money could be accounted for in other aspects of development.

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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    Just curious, what's the estimation about how far to the nearest bar?
    5 miles

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    Re: New stadium for the Bills in the future?

    Not 5 miles but maybe 1 to 2 miles....

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