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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Remember WHATEVER the Bills do half this board will whine to high heaven and claim it was the dumbest move ever,...
    just half?

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Dumb move.

    Could have signed McCown or Hoyer and got the same exact player without losing a draft pick.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Do some of you really think he was brought in to back-up Manuel? If it's a fair competition (that's assuming that there even is one), Cassell would win easily. And I am not a huge fan of his, either.
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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    Dumb move.

    Could have signed McCown or Hoyer and got the same exact player without losing a draft pick.
    I agree in theory, but you just never know what's going to happen when you open bidding to everyone (contract-wise) and then you have to hope the player is interested in signing.

    I just look at it like we replaced Orton for 500K cheaper. Not ideal, but not the worst thing in the world. I'm still hoping EJ has some kind of football epiphany and wins the job.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiko View Post
    for HOF Kiko saw Moss, Brady (who didn't play), and Wilfork? who else did you see?
    Hand-waving away talent like Moss and Wilfork? We have no offensive talent remotely close to Moss.

    they had some great role players/lockerroom guys like Adalius Thomas, Bruschi, Welker, and Seymour.
    Junior Seau, Rodney Harrison, Logan Mankins, etc. They had talent and leaders all over the place. And of course Belichick.


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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by Buddo View Post
    To be fair, someone at bb.com MB posted a bunch of stats for all of the mediocrity league FA QBs, and Cassell actually had pretty much the best set, from experience, W/L, TDs/Ints etc.

    It leaves me completely underwhelmed tbh, but I can see the rationale behind it, and numbers wise, Cassell does appear to be better than most of the bunch. The money isn't exhorbitant, and neither are the picks.
    I can't see the rationale. They could have purchased the same level of mediocre, hanging-on vets by buying someone like FA Jason Campbell without having to sell off any draft picks. Campbell's stats approximate Casses's. There is no reason to buy either unless they are terribly worried that Manuel has nothing and will never have nothing.

    They were miffed that the peripatetic Orton who started ok and then waned as the season wore on, walked away after heaping cash on him, And now think that - in the face of a strong rb draft class - they will trade away choices, and dump riches on a rb via trade, a East-West slasher who needs an active, competent OL and TE scheme.
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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    The Vikings will get draft pick compensation for Cassel. According to Alex Marvez of FOX Sports, the Bills will trade the Buccaneers’ 2015 fifth-round pick (which the Bills acquired in a previous trade) for the Vikings’ 2015 sixth-round pick, and Buffalo will also give Minnesota a 2016 seventh-round pick.


    Big deal on the picks.

    Anyhow, they liked him more than the other backup type UFA's and had a locked in salary they we fine with. Plus he's in his last year of his contract.

    Orton 2.0

    Welcome and best of luck. Now turn and hand the ball off to McCoy.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    What is the big deal about that?

    We spent way too much to do it and it's going to kill our ability to meet other needs. Qb and rb are useless without an OL. We need to fix ours and have severely hampered our ability to do it with these moves.
    If need be, the Bills can restructure McCoys contract to gain cap room.

    But there is no question Cassel is BETTER than McCown. Well worth a 5th rnd pick.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    Dumb move.

    Could have signed McCown or Hoyer and got the same exact player without losing a draft pick.
    McCown & Hoyer may be the exact same player but Cassel is MUCH BETTER than both of them.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    McCown & Hoyer may be the exact same player but Cassel is MUCH BETTER than both of them.
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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by casdhf View Post
    This post is undefendable.
    Neither McCown or Hoyer has ever won 11 games in a single season.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Be happy with what we got, Could be worse, One of you guys could be the QB, That's how slim the market is.

    You really think teams will trade a valued QB?? Who has a QB that they can get rid of because their guy is that good??

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    If need be, the Bills can restructure McCoys contract to gain cap room.

    But there is no question Cassel is BETTER than McCown. Well worth a 5th rnd pick.
    They just moved back 1 round. Still have 6 picks total on draft day. Gave up a 7th next year. Minor stuff.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    NFL live crew likes what the Bills are doing..

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

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    NFL live crew likes what the Bills are doing..
    Everybody should.

    If the offense can be average and Rex can get the D to play near last year's level, we're a playoff team and a road win in Boston away from winning the division.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    the goal here is to have the run game we had in 2013 with the pass game we had in 2014, it's not that ambitious, but it's realistic and combined with a killer d and special teams it is a blue print for a dominant team (SF, old ravens, Seattle) if it works.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    I would've preferred Locker and keeping picks.
    I would've preferred keeping the TB fifth (basically a late 4th).
    I wanted to draft Buck Allen.


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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by colin View Post
    the goal here is to have the run game we had in 2013 with the pass game we had in 2014, it's not that ambitious, but it's realistic and combined with a killer d and special teams it is a blue print for a dominant team (SF, old ravens, Seattle) if it works.
    Minus three starters is the defense the same?

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Ortons replacement and a solid backup for late round picks likely to be training camp cuts or buried on the depth chart is great value in my opinion.


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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    I would've preferred Locker and keeping picks.
    Damn duplicate post
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