I don't like seeing players get hurt unless it's Tom Brady, but.....

[OpIv37]

I have to say I wasn't exactly upset that Aaron Williams went down. I don't have a whole lot of confidence in Leodis either, but Williams has been toast all season and Andre Johnson was eating him alive.

After Williams got hurt, Gilmore was on Johnson. They only threw at him twice and Johnson only had one catch after Gilmore was on him. Granted, the numbers may be a little skewed, as it was late in the game and the Texans were trying to kill clock and running more than passing. Still, Williams remains the weakest link on an already weak defense and hasn't shown much progress at all, meanwhile Gilmore has more work to do but is developing nicely.

I really hope Leodis or Rogers can step up as the starter and the other one can take over as the nickel back because Aaron Williams just doesn't have it.

[justasportsfan]

Re: I don't like seeing players get hurt unless it's Tom Brady, but.....

I really hope Leodis or Rogers can step up as the starter and the other one can take over as the nickel back because Aaron Williams just doesn't have it.

wait, you're already sure that Aaron Williams doesn't have it and yet you're still hoping Leodis can step up?

[trapezeus]

Re: I don't like seeing players get hurt unless it's Tom Brady, but.....

leodis has his moments though. aaron williams hasn't shown anything positive thus far. we skipped on andy dalton to take this guy. he's just an athlete. he seems to have no craft to his game. He bites on everything and has no closing speed. and without a line to put pressure, the QB's get a chance to wait for the move and then throw that direction.

[justasportsfan]

Re: I don't like seeing players get hurt unless it's Tom Brady, but.....

leodis has his moments though. aaron williams hasn't shown anything positive thus far. we skipped on andy dalton to take this guy. he's just an athlete. he seems to have no craft to his game. He bites on everything and has no closing speed. and without a line to put pressure, the QB's get a chance to wait for the move and then throw that direction.

Not trying to defend anyone here. but Leodis has 5 years and Williams is still playing less than 16 games (due to injury in his rookies season)

[Oaf]

Re: I don't like seeing players get hurt unless it's Tom Brady, but.....

Not trying to defend anyone here, but Gilmore stunk when it counted yesterday (3rd down converts, missed tackles).

[OpIv37]

Re: I don't like seeing players get hurt unless it's Tom Brady, but.....

wait, you're already sure that Aaron Williams doesn't have it and yet you're still hoping Leodis can step up?

Leodis will never be a star in this league but even at his worst he was never as incompetent as Williams.

[trapezeus]

Re: I don't like seeing players get hurt unless it's Tom Brady, but.....

if leodis wasn't taken in the first round and we had him as our kick returner with potential dime coverage work, we'd like him.

aaron williams doesn't do anything but get beaten.

it is hard to tell if he stinks of the coaches stink. how many times have we seen players come in with promise and then leave broken? williams looked ok last year when he got in the second half of year. now he looks unservicable.

but now that nix is standing by gailey and there seems to be no pressure to get rid of nix, this truly is a pathetic effort we are forced to endure. I just keep tweeting russ. he allows this.

[justasportsfan]

Re: I don't like seeing players get hurt unless it's Tom Brady, but.....

Leodis will never be a star in this league but even at his worst he was never as incompetent as Williams.

what have you been watching? Leodis was benched because he was incompetent despite having more years than Williams. He got burned by Sanchez several times.

You may be clouded by how bad McKelvin is because he's a great returner.

He was one of the worst last year.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2012/worst-cornerback-charting-stats-2011

[OpIv37]

Re: I don't like seeing players get hurt unless it's Tom Brady, but.....

what have you been watching? Leodis was benched because he was incompetent despite having more years than Williams. He got burned by Sanchez several times.

You may be clouded by how bad McKelvin is because he's a great returner.

He was one of the worst last year.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/sta...ing-stats-2011

I'm not saying Leodis is good. I'm saying Williams is worse. The guy is this decade's Chris Watson.

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and for what it's worth, I don't like Leodis as a returner. Lots of big plays, but too many mistakes to go with them.

[justasportsfan]

Re: I don't like seeing players get hurt unless it's Tom Brady, but.....

I'm not saying Leodis is good. I'm saying Williams is worse. The guy is this decade's Chris Watson.

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and for what it's worth, I don't like Leodis as a returner. Lots of big plays, but too many mistakes to go with them.

again, less than 16 games vs. 5 years+.

[OpIv37]

Re: I don't like seeing players get hurt unless it's Tom Brady, but.....

again, less than 16 games vs. 5 years+.

Then explain why he looks worse this year than he did last year. The guy is regressing, not improving.

[justasportsfan]

Re: I don't like seeing players get hurt unless it's Tom Brady, but.....

Then explain why he looks worse this year than he did last year. The guy is regressing, not improving.

I am not trying to defend Williams, I am saying Mckelvin blows and if you are still hoping "he steps up" then you have to apologize to every bills fan who hoped that Whitner stepped up.

[EDS]

Re: I don't like seeing players get hurt unless it's Tom Brady, but.....

again, less than 16 games vs. 5 years+.

Let's be honest, neither is any good and the chances that McKelvin or Williams become competent as corners is very small.

[OpIv37]

Re: I don't like seeing players get hurt unless it's Tom Brady, but.....

I am not trying to defend Williams, I am saying Mckelvin blows and if you are still hoping "he steps up" then you have to apologize to every bills fan who hoped that Whitner stepped up.

I always hoped Whitner would step up. I just never expected him to.

[Cali512]

Re: I don't like seeing players get hurt unless it's Tom Brady, but.....

Honestly having Whitner and Pos starting, along with McKelvin, would make our D not as bad, and would improve it. Our issues just so happen to be what we replaced these guys, and they were at least average at there spots. We now need a SS, MLB, and CB now, seems funny that we got rid of 2 solid ones who are both having very good solid seasons.