Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

[stuckincincy]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

I think people are too focused on his stat sheet and are missing his influence. To say he's shown up in the last two games especially is an insult to the level he's played at all season. Mario has been a beast against the run and pass.

He has pedestrian tackle totals for a DE with such playing time - always has - and worse if you subtract sacks. If a runner comes close to his shoulder, he does make a half-hearted effort to tackle him...I give him that. But he's a snap to beat when he's not rushing a quarterback. Williams is an oversized linebacker who gets the big bucks because of the rah-rah for sacks. He doesn't disrupt OL play that I've ever seen, and is rarely in any position to influence the movement of a runner. How many times have you seen him string out a play? Has he ever made a downfield tackle?

He is an incomplete DE. I suspect HOU let him go because they saw that.

[swiper]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

He has pedestrian tackle totals for a DE with such playing time - always has - and worse if you subtract sacks. If a runner comes close to his shoulder, he does make a half-hearted effort to tackle him...I give him that. But he's a snap to beat when he's not rushing a quarterback. Williams is an oversized linebacker who gets the big bucks because of the rah-rah for sacks. He doesn't disrupt OL play that I've ever seen, and is rarely in any position to influence the movement of a runner. How many times have you seen him string out a play? Has he ever made a downfield tackle?

He is an incomplete DE. I suspect HOU let him go because they saw that.

WTF is wrong with certain people? String out plays? I just watched him run down Michael Vick to the opposite sideline. You missed that play? Not to mention all the times opposing teams put the blocking TE on him (as a second blocker) so Jerry Hughes can perform his magic off the other side. Was it your money they paid to him?

[DraftBoy]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

He has pedestrian tackle totals for a DE with such playing time - always has - and worse if you subtract sacks. If a runner comes close to his shoulder, he does make a half-hearted effort to tackle him...I give him that. But he's a snap to beat when he's not rushing a quarterback. Williams is an oversized linebacker who gets the big bucks because of the rah-rah for sacks. He doesn't disrupt OL play that I've ever seen, and is rarely in any position to influence the movement of a runner. How many times have you seen him string out a play? Has he ever made a downfield tackle?

He is an incomplete DE. I suspect HOU let him go because they saw that.

I could give two dumps about his tackle #'s. Again that's stat watching, and not based on what is actually going on in the field. He's forced countless runs this year to either reverse field, cut inside early, or bounce outside against their design. Those never show up in a stat box but are huge impacts on the game. I've seen disrupt the OL play this year constantly. Don't know if you're just not watching him or what.

I don't care about down field tackles with a DE but to answer your question I think so against Miami he made one on a wide running play.

[swiper]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

People still expect him to be superman because of that contract. I admit I wanted that for a long time too. But the fact is he has carved out a very effective niche at his DE position. His being there, doing what he does, has elevated the play of all the other players on the defense. So in that sense, he was worth the money paid to him.

[WagonCircler]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

He has pedestrian tackle totals for a DE with such playing time - always has - and worse if you subtract sacks..

Classic.

If you subtract the Home Runs, Babe Ruths RBIs were pedestrian.

Asinine.

[better days]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

He has pedestrian tackle totals for a DE with such playing time - always has - and worse if you subtract sacks. If a runner comes close to his shoulder, he does make a half-hearted effort to tackle him...I give him that. But he's a snap to beat when he's not rushing a quarterback. Williams is an oversized linebacker who gets the big bucks because of the rah-rah for sacks. He doesn't disrupt OL play that I've ever seen, and is rarely in any position to influence the movement of a runner. How many times have you seen him string out a play? Has he ever made a downfield tackle?

He is an incomplete DE. I suspect HOU let him go because they saw that.

You don't even watch the games.

How would you know if Mario makes an effort or not?

Or if he is a snap to beat or not?

The fact is this is pure BS. You don't know what you are talking about.

Mario is very GOOD setting the edge against the run.

[swiper]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

And Mario embarrasses coastal once again.

[coastal]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

He had one tackle.

[casdhf]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

He owned his half of the field. Good second half

[YardRat]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

Classic example of why statistics shouldn't be a benchmark of a player's value...another strong outing by Mario.

[pmoon6]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

He had one tackle.

Just stop.....

[coastal]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

Stop?

talk to me four games from now.

ill make my decision then.

[DraftBoy]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

Stop?

talk to me four games from now.

ill make my decision then.

You made your decision long ago, why would the next four games matter?

[coastal]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

You made your decision long ago, why would the next four games matter?

The opportunity is Mario's...

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

give it up DB, everybody has their schtick.

coastal hates Mario
TD hates EJ
Hurkey hates spiller and Marone
Fletch hates Sammy and pmoon hates everyone