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alohabillsfan
02-07-2007, 11:00 AM
For all of us armchair GM's here is what I found, maybe some of you could research potential cap casulties...

1 San Francisco 49ers $42.1 M TE Johnson, Eric
2 Buffalo Bills $39.7 M
3 Arizona Cardinals $36.7 M
4 Tennessee Titans $36 M
5 Cleveland Browns $33.305 M
6 St. Louis Rams $31.98 M DE L. Little
7 Minnesota Vikings $31.5 M
8 Jacksonville Jaguars $31 M
9 Cincinnati Bengals $28.8 M DE Smith, Justin
10 NY Jets $28.455 M
11 Green Bay Packers $28.36 M DE KGB
12 New England Patriots $26.98 M TE Graham, Daniel
13 Chicago Bears $26.9 M
14 New Orleans Saints $26 M
15 San Diego Chargers $24.6 M
16 Tampa Bay Buccaneers $23.985 M DE White, Dewayne
17 Detroit Lions $23.8 M DT/DE
18 Seattle Seahawks $21.9 M DT Redding, Cory
19 Dallas Cowboys $21.5 M
20 Houston Texans $19.8 M
21 Miami Dolphins $17.8 M
22 NY Giants $15.7 M C S. Ohara/ G David Diehl
23 Oakland Raiders $14.105 M
24 Philadelphia Eagles $12.4 M OT W. Thomas
25 Atlanta Falcons $11.5 M
26 Denver Broncos $7.6 M OG Cooper Carlisle
27 Kansas City Chiefs $7 M OT J. Black/MLB Kawika Mitchell
28 Baltimore Ravens $5.7 M LB A. Thomas/OT Tony Pashos
29 Indianapolis Colts $4.9 M LB Cato June/CB Nick Harper
30 Pittsburgh Steelers $1.44 M
31 Carolina Panthers $-3.1
32 Washington Redskins $-2.388 M RB Betts, Ladell/OG Dockery, Derrick


ANYONE WITH ANY OTHERS THROW THEM ON THERE!!!!!!!!
Disclaimer-Used unreliable source for FA !

OpIv37
02-07-2007, 11:03 AM
The Skins re-signed Betts last year so I doubt he'll be a cap casualty, but there will most likely be at least a handful of them from the Skins.

But we need more info then just available cap space- we need to know which of these teams have scrubs that count $3+ million against the cap, like Mike Williams for us last year.

ICE74129
02-07-2007, 02:58 PM
So someone explain to me again how we can't outbid for players? 2nd most cap room of any team and this is an issue why?

Devin
02-07-2007, 03:09 PM
Its not a matter of outbidding its a matter of simple economics.

When you have 20 teams all near or above 20 mil in cap space there are a lot of hands in the pie. I have no doubt we will be aggressive and bid high for FA's we target.

ICE74129
02-07-2007, 03:11 PM
Its not a matter of outbidding its a matter of simple economics.

When you have 20 teams all near or above 20 mil in cap space there are a lot of hands in the pie. I have no doubt we will be aggressive and bid high for FA's we target.

So the reality is, those saying 'WE CANT BID' are 100% wrong. We can bid for and just about out bid anyone for a FA or two we wanted. Now should we is another issue. I am just sick of hearing 'we can't'.

OpIv37
02-07-2007, 03:30 PM
So the reality is, those saying 'WE CANT BID' are 100% wrong. We can bid for and just about out bid anyone for a FA or two we wanted. Now should we is another issue. I am just sick of hearing 'we can't'.

I don't know if it's that we can't BID or that we can't WIN the bidding war. Marv can offer Lance Briggs $30 million over 5 years but who's to say Chicago won't offer him $31 million or a team that actually contended last year won't match our offer? I suspect Marv won't sit back- he'll make some aggressive offers- but whether or not they're accepted isn't up to him.

HHURRICANE
02-07-2007, 03:47 PM
Its not a matter of outbidding its a matter of simple economics.

When you have 20 teams all near or above 20 mil in cap space there are a lot of hands in the pie. I have no doubt we will be aggressive and bid high for FA's we target.

You have to look at it as a sliding scale. The Cap # will continue to increase so not only do we start out ahead of everyone else but the excat contract we sign this year would cost us more to sign next year. There is absolutely no reason not to overbid everyone else. The contract that Winfield signed with Minnesota looks like a dud now!

If there was ever a year to sign players this is it!

ParanoidAndroid
02-07-2007, 03:51 PM
I think it might be coming out as "we can't" because so many are contending that Wilson won't pay. Since they think "Ralph won't" then it becomes "Marv can't" outbid.
My thinking is that the trust factor plays huge when Marv goes after someone and consequently, Ralph will not get in his way.
Who knows, really?

alohabillsfan
02-07-2007, 04:20 PM
Does anyone know what this number represents 170312500?

SABURZFAN
02-07-2007, 05:21 PM
Does anyone know what this number represents 170312500?



that's how many cheeseburgers that sam adams ate in one sit in.

alohabillsfan
02-07-2007, 07:46 PM
Does anyone know what this number represents 170312500?


That is the check that ralph gets from the NFL (for 2007) $170,312,500.00 (this is for players salaries and operating expenses) , This does not include any revenue generated by the team I.E. gate sales, luxury boxes, concessions, parking etc... So Ralphy is making some coin, I will not feel sorry him and he needs to spend it! The reason he wants revenue sharing is because Buffalo only make 40 million on gate sales parking etc... and not 86 million like the patsy! Poor ralph is only making like 60 million a year!

Which is not bad for a 25,000 dollar investment!

Mahdi
02-08-2007, 08:39 PM
For all of us armchair GM's here is what I found, maybe some of you could research potential cap casulties...

1 San Francisco 49ers $42.1 M TE Johnson, Eric
2 Buffalo Bills $39.7 M
3 Arizona Cardinals $36.7 M
4 Tennessee Titans $36 M
5 Cleveland Browns $33.305 M
6 St. Louis Rams $31.98 M DE L. Little
7 Minnesota Vikings $31.5 M
8 Jacksonville Jaguars $31 M
9 Cincinnati Bengals $28.8 M DE Smith, Justin
10 NY Jets $28.455 M
11 Green Bay Packers $28.36 M DE KGB
12 New England Patriots $26.98 M TE Graham, Daniel
13 Chicago Bears $26.9 M
14 New Orleans Saints $26 M
15 San Diego Chargers $24.6 M
16 Tampa Bay Buccaneers $23.985 M DE White, Dewayne
17 Detroit Lions $23.8 M DT/DE
18 Seattle Seahawks $21.9 M DT Redding, Cory
19 Dallas Cowboys $21.5 M
20 Houston Texans $19.8 M
21 Miami Dolphins $17.8 M
22 NY Giants $15.7 M C S. Ohara/ G David Diehl
23 Oakland Raiders $14.105 M
24 Philadelphia Eagles $12.4 M OT W. Thomas
25 Atlanta Falcons $11.5 M
26 Denver Broncos $7.6 M OG Cooper Carlisle
27 Kansas City Chiefs $7 M OT J. Black/MLB Kawika Mitchell
28 Baltimore Ravens $5.7 M LB A. Thomas/OT Tony Pashos
29 Indianapolis Colts $4.9 M LB Cato June/CB Nick Harper
30 Pittsburgh Steelers $1.44 M
31 Carolina Panthers $-3.1
32 Washington Redskins $-2.388 M RB Betts, Ladell/OG Dockery, Derrick


ANYONE WITH ANY OTHERS THROW THEM ON THERE!!!!!!!!
Disclaimer-Used unreliable source for FA !
After extending safeties Mark Roman and Kieth Lewis the 49ers are now 37.6 million under the cap --- The Bills are officially #1 in the NFL in cap space----

HHURRICANE
02-09-2007, 07:40 AM
After extending safeties Mark Roman and Kieth Lewis the 49ers are now 37.6 million under the cap --- The Bills are officially #1 in the NFL in cap space----


If Marv doesn't spend some money in this offseason there are going to be some very angry fans. I'm not asking him to act like Daniel Snyder but I expect 2, maybe 3, impact players to come out of free agency. Considering we went 7-9 last season, just resriging Nate wouldn't be near enough anyway.