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Mitchy moo
07-19-2007, 08:47 AM
Vegas has set this over / under on us to win 6 games this season, we're at +100 on the over 6. So what that means is every dollar that you put on the Bills, you will get a dollar back or double your money if the Bills win 7 or more.

I am seriously considering flying out to Vegas and laying $50K down on the over, for real. We had 5 games last year that we lost by 3 points and almost had the worse offense in the league. Almost all the home games are sold out or close and the place will be rocking. We are going to win at least 5 games at home and I see 2 more on the road as a lock. Money in the bank, shorty what you think?

http://phoenixsports.com/NFL/NFL-Regular-Season-Wins.shtml

cocamide
07-19-2007, 08:50 AM
I'm with you, but I can only afford $50 (forget the k).

Tatonka
07-19-2007, 08:53 AM
why would you fly to vegas.. just go to intertops.com.

i have been using them since 97... never had an issue.

you can save yourself the plane ticket.

i would never put 50k on something like that because jp and evans could get hurt in the first game by a fluke and your screwed, but i would drop a few hundred on that in a heartbeat.

justasportsfan
07-19-2007, 08:54 AM
So far it's showing 2 guys bet on the bills to finish under six games. Names were Weiler and Moran.

Sounds familiar :huh:

Mitchy moo
07-19-2007, 08:58 AM
why would you fly to vegas.. just go to intertops.com.

i have been using them since 97... never had an issue.

you can save yourself the plane ticket.

i would never put 50k on something like that because jp and evans could get hurt in the first game by a fluke and your screwed, but i would drop a few hundred on that in a heartbeat.

That's why it's called gambling, it's a risk. Main players of teams that we play can get hurt as well, so the odds wash all of that out. Keeping things equal, we are better than last year and have some gamers on our team. We also gained a defensive presence in POZ and a additional Offense presence in Lynch.

Mr. Miyagi
07-19-2007, 09:23 AM
why would you fly to vegas.. just go to intertops.com.

No o/u on that site.

HAMMER
07-19-2007, 09:26 AM
Sportsbook.com has it, I will be going over for 1K. 6 wins is a push, 7 gets you the money. Now is the time to make the bet because if the offense looks really good in camp and preseason the line could move to 6.5 games.

Mitchy moo
07-19-2007, 09:33 AM
Sportsbook.com has it, I will be going over for 1K. 6 wins is a push, 7 gets you the money. Now is the time to make the bet because if the offense looks really good in camp and preseason the line could move to 6.5 games.

I think your right, I will make arrangements before camp. I cannot put that type of money into a online place, it has to be done at a physical place of business. I also would rather pay tax on any winnings as to not have a federal investigation at a later point see what I made, how and potentially didn't report it.

clumping platelets
07-19-2007, 09:40 AM
So far it's showing 2 guys bet on the bills to finish under six games. Names were Weiler and Moran.

Sounds familiar :huh:



:roflmao:

eyedog
07-19-2007, 09:42 AM
I agree skooby. No way in hell I would put that kind of money in an offshore, I need the tickets in hand.
I have a friend out there right now looking into the various books and the o/u on the bills. So far all 6 wins at various money lines. If he finds a 5.5 somewhere I'll be on the next plane.

HAMMER
07-19-2007, 09:59 AM
I have used Sportsbook for about 6 years and never had a problem getting paid, at times I've had several thousand in my account. They will put it back into your bank account or mail you a check within two days. Trust me when I say it is easy, too easy. They have this 100K challenge where you put in $25 and have to pick 13 games against the spread from a list of about 25 games. They use all the NFL games that week and selected NCAA games. It was the second week of the 04 season and I had 12 of 13 games, lost the MNF game. 1 measly game away from 100K. Waaaaaaah.

eyedog
07-19-2007, 10:15 AM
Update: Mirage- Bills o/u 6
Venetian- 6.5 WTF is that ?

He's heading downtown tonight to see what he can find.

TacklingDummy
07-19-2007, 10:35 AM
Under is a realistic good bet.

HAMMER
07-19-2007, 10:49 AM
Under is a realistic good bet.

Ya know the difficulty of our early schedule is what is keeping the number so low. I just think this team will win a few of those close games that we lost last year. I believe we will win six or more, but playoffs are a long shot to be sure.

BillsFever21
07-20-2007, 01:55 AM
It seems like we see a post like this every season and how this is a sure bet if you bet the over on the Bills, and how everybody is going to make a ton of money because Vegas is stupid and this is such a sure bet.

I think last year was 8 games. Not sure what the year before was. For the last 3 years in a row this kind of post came up we never hit the over. There must be some really broke people in here right now.

ublinkwescore
07-20-2007, 02:58 AM
Is that Willis McGahee?

djjimkelly
07-20-2007, 05:26 AM
im gonna drop a decent bet on this exact bet too but i just want to see us go thru half of preseason before i do it to make sure no one like evans or losman is hurt

Wys Guy
07-20-2007, 07:40 AM
So far it's showing 2 guys bet on the bills to finish under six games. Names were Weiler and Moran.

Sounds familiar :huh:

LOL

I'll tell ya what just, you wanna take the O w/ me at 6 games?

I'll extend the offer to anyone here via real name and e-mail. No 50K wagers however. Just C-notes or less.

Somehow with you just, I anticipate the sound of crickets chirping in response to this.

What's that proverb, a fool and his money are soon parted.

Seriously Skooby, please don't put anything large down on that this year.

mybills
07-20-2007, 07:41 AM
So far it's showing 2 guys bet on the bills to finish under six games. Names were Weiler and Moran.

Sounds familiar :huh:
:rofl:

Wys Guy
07-20-2007, 07:49 AM
It's one thing to be optimistic apart from reason. It's entirely another to be foolish.

Our schedule, due to the fact that we're gonna have a defense capable of being pushed all over the field, coupled with an offense possessing only one proven weapon, a QB lacking a solid short game, and a mystery-meat RB running behind a very questionable OL after LT and LG, has us playing 8 teams up front all better than we are.

While it's nice and "optimistic" to think we're going to do whatever someone would want, and while discussing it is one thing but plunking down a ton of money is another, where we are going to come up with wins in the first eight games is a real mystery. I'd say if we win two of those games we'll be in good shape. So unless one thinks that we finish the second half going 5-3, ...

TacklingDummy
07-20-2007, 08:05 AM
So unless one thinks that we finish the second half going 5-3, ...

5 of the last 8 games are on the road. 1 of the remaining 3 home games is against NE. 5-3 is unlikely.

From start to finish the Bills have a tough schedule this year.

Wys Guy
07-20-2007, 08:10 AM
5 of the last 8 games are on the road. 1 of the remaining 3 home games is against NE. 5-3 is unlikely.

From start to finish the Bills have a tough schedule this year.
You don't have to convince me. But again, the schedule seems tough b/c we are not a good team.

If we had the early '90s era players now, I wouldn't say that the schedule was particularly tough.

djjimkelly
07-20-2007, 08:40 AM
remember 6 is a push i think 6 games is easily won we will go 3-3 in division minimum and that means only 3 and 7 vs rest of the league its a lock 6 wins!! and sorry im going thru my betting site becuz i know others find a way not to pay

Meathead
07-20-2007, 09:08 AM
I had 12 of 13 games, lost the MNF game. 1 measly game away from 100K
:lolpoint: hammer

Dr. Lecter
07-20-2007, 09:25 AM
You don't have to convince me. But again, the schedule seems tough b/c we are not a good team.

If we had the early '90s era players now, I wouldn't say that the schedule was particularly tough.
I disagree.

Kelly, Andre, Bruce, Thurm, Talley, etc are pretty old these days. I think the team woudl be hurting with them.

OpIv37
07-20-2007, 09:36 AM
remember 6 is a push i think 6 games is easily won we will go 3-3 in division minimum and that means only 3 and 7 vs rest of the league its a lock 6 wins!! and sorry im going thru my betting site becuz i know others find a way not to pay

3-3 in the division is a tall order on it's own. NE will kick our asses twice, and we'll be lucky to split with the Jets. That means we'd have to sweep Miami- and while Miami looks to be in rough shape, they always show up against us so it's not a given.

Dr. Lecter
07-20-2007, 09:37 AM
3-3 in the division is a tall order on it's own. NE will kick our asses twice, and we'll be lucky to split with the Jets. That means we'd have to sweep Miami- and while Miami looks to be in rough shape, they always show up against us so it's not a given.

Always?

They did not show up last year.

HAMMER
07-20-2007, 11:34 AM
:lolpoint: hammer

Hey, that's NOT funny Meatstick.

rdhstlr23
07-20-2007, 12:04 PM
Hey Fellas...As a Dolfan, I come in peace. I have been looking at the website for the past month or so, haven't posted until now. As a Dolphin fan, I think I'd take that bet, only if a push means you get your money back. I know some online gambling sites take action or keep money on pushes. I can't see the Bills being worse than 6-10, just like Miami---both of whom I predict to be the last 2 teams in the division. You know Buffalo will split with NY and Miami, it's almost a given. Plus, there is a lot to look forward to with that offense. If Losman continues to progress, 8-8, 9-7 isn't far-fetched.

justasportsfan
07-20-2007, 12:18 PM
LOL

I'll tell ya what just, you wanna take the O w/ me at 6 games?

I'll extend the offer to anyone here via real name and e-mail. No 50K wagers however. Just C-notes or less.

Somehow with you just, I anticipate the sound of crickets chirping in response to this.

What's that proverb, a fool and his money are soon parted.

Seriously Skooby, please don't put anything large down on that this year.

I bet you we finish with more than 6 wins. 6 is a push 5 wins or less you win. $50 Cash?

Circkets chirping? you're the one with, "you have to email me the bet, bahblahblah" where's my email, blah,blah,blah,."

Mitchy moo
07-20-2007, 03:23 PM
I feel we are going to be above .500, so for me it's a sure bet. I got my tickets todays and I am going to bet it, I feel it's a lock.

BillsFever21
07-21-2007, 03:57 AM
Skooby will be living in a cardboard box this January.

Mitchy moo
07-22-2007, 07:50 AM
Skooby will be living in a cardboard box this January.

I'm actually moving to a beach penthouse this week, moving away from Tom G's hood here is SW FL. My lanai is bigger than the house I grew up in by Otto's.

HHURRICANE
07-22-2007, 09:11 AM
Vegas has set this over / under on us to win 6 games this season, we're at +100 on the over 6. So what that means is every dollar that you put on the Bills, you will get a dollar back or double your money if the Bills win 7 or more.

I am seriously considering flying out to Vegas and laying $50K down on the over, for real. We had 5 games last year that we lost by 3 points and almost had the worse offense in the league. Almost all the home games are sold out or close and the place will be rocking. We are going to win at least 5 games at home and I see 2 more on the road as a lock. Money in the bank, shorty what you think?

http://phoenixsports.com/NFL/NFL-Regular-Season-Wins.shtml

Skooby I like to run some green on football. It's the only sport that I will risk hard earned cash on. I don't bet on anything else and the last time I was in Vegas I never touched a table.

I would tell you that this is very, very tempting however I was much more confident on 7 wins last year and threw it out there before the season began.

This is the problem. This team is thin on depth. One key injury and our season could be in trouble early. If JP or Evans gets hurt we don't have the defense to carry us. Yes, alot of teams would be hurt if they had a key loss but they have defenses, etc., to keep them in games. We don't.

That's why they call it betting. You are better off putting the 50K on one game, around weeks 4-8. Your odds are better of winning.

YardRat
07-22-2007, 09:39 AM
I'll take the under.

bills_7
07-22-2007, 09:51 AM
the only worry othr then guys getn hurt would be the garbage games near the end if we arnt in a playoff position

Mitchy moo
07-22-2007, 11:29 AM
Skooby I like to run some green on football. It's the only sport that I will risk hard earned cash on. I don't bet on anything else and the last time I was in Vegas I never touched a table.

I would tell you that this is very, very tempting however I was much more confident on 7 wins last year and threw it out there before the season began.

This is the problem. This team is thin on depth. One key injury and our season could be in trouble early. If JP or Evans gets hurt we don't have the defense to carry us. Yes, alot of teams would be hurt if they had a key loss but they have defenses, etc., to keep them in games. We don't.

That's why they call it betting. You are better off putting the 50K on one game, around weeks 4-8. Your odds are better of winning.

Injuries are uncontrolled and unknows that can happen to any team. The odds on it happening to not only your team but your opponents team as well. Your opponents are just as likely to be missing a player they need as your team. As per depth, Tom Brady stepped in to fill in for an injured Drew Bledsoe and the rest is history. Kurt Warner took over after Trent Green went down and St. Louis season was supposed to be lost, look what happened there.

Fate has a way of determining how things are going to play out and it usually evens out.

TacklingDummy
07-22-2007, 12:45 PM
I bet you we finish with more than 6 wins. 6 is a push 5 wins or less you win. $50 Cash?

Circkets chirping? you're the one with, "you have to email me the bet, bahblahblah" where's my email, blah,blah,blah,."

Crickets chirping.

Wys Guy
07-22-2007, 12:52 PM
I bet you we finish with more than 6 wins. 6 is a push 5 wins or less you win. $50 Cash?

Circkets chirping? you're the one with, "you have to email me the bet, bahblahblah" where's my email, blah,blah,blah,."

E-mail me.

Yes, as stated, otherwise crickets will be chirping. I will not deal via MB or PM on this. Won't happen.

I realize that carrying over from your illogical positions on the team you feel obligated to remain consistent and buck all the conventional trends, patterns, and accepted personal means of electronic communication, but sorry, that's just the way it's gonna have to be.

I understand that you really don't want to be writing me any more checks than what you'll already owe me at the end of the season. I an empathize with you there.

Otherwise quit your blubbering and shoot me a note. If it takes a month like last time the season will almost be well underway.

Wys Guy
07-22-2007, 12:53 PM
Crickets chirping.

Haven't heard from you or anyone else either (except for Mike) essentially insisting that 7 wins will be a walk in the park this autumn.

Hmmm, I wonder why that might be. Oh well, the offer stands for anyone that has the ability to communicate other than via BZ MB.

I mean what can be so complicated sending an e-mail for anyone truly wishing to take me up on this! Honestly. It's not at all unreasonable.

And you know what, being a fair man, I'll even allow mail via the US Postal service. :D

Mitchy moo
07-22-2007, 01:39 PM
My wire will go to a place with 4 million light bulbs on, no where else. Bills win 9 or more games this year.

SABURZFAN
07-22-2007, 01:42 PM
Vegas has set this over / under on us to win 6 games this season, we're at +100 on the over 6. So what that means is every dollar that you put on the Bills, you will get a dollar back or double your money if the Bills win 7 or more.

I am seriously considering flying out to Vegas and laying $50K down on the over, for real. We had 5 games last year that we lost by 3 points and almost had the worse offense in the league. Almost all the home games are sold out or close and the place will be rocking. We are going to win at least 5 games at home and I see 2 more on the road as a lock. Money in the bank, shorty what you think?

http://phoenixsports.com/NFL/NFL-Regular-Season-Wins.shtml



if you're going to lay that kind of dough,i want to be there,as a witness,so i can tell everybody in here whether you're bull****ting or not.

Mitchy moo
07-22-2007, 04:27 PM
if you're going to lay that kind of dough,i want to be there,as a witness,so i can tell everybody in here whether you're bull****ting or not.

Your there, so when i go i'll meet you for a drink.

Captain gameboy
07-23-2007, 12:26 AM
Call me madcap, but I did the deal yesterday.

I was at the MGM Grand during a weekend reunion, and put 100 on the beloved.
Would not have done it if it was seven, but at six, I did.

Fact is, I know that nobody here or in the sports media has any idea how this team will play, but, I think they will be better than the consensus.

justasportsfan
07-23-2007, 09:01 AM
E-mail me.

Yes, as stated, otherwise crickets will be chirping. I will not deal via MB or PM on this. Won't happen.

I realize that carrying over from your illogical positions on the team you feel obligated to remain consistent and buck all the conventional trends, patterns, and accepted personal means of electronic communication, but sorry, that's just the way it's gonna have to be.

I understand that you really don't want to be writing me any more checks than what you'll already owe me at the end of the season. I an empathize with you there.

Otherwise quit your blubbering and shoot me a note. If it takes a month like last time the season will almost be well underway.Amazing. You come here and make a bet here and yet the bet is not official unless I email you on another website. :shakeno:

Either this is your way of stalling or just so you can tell the other website that "look, people are emailing me" ? :snicker: .


Email sent.

Mitchy moo
12-05-2007, 10:35 PM
Vegas has set this over / under on us to win 6 games this season, we're at +100 on the over 6. So what that means is every dollar that you put on the Bills, you will get a dollar back or double your money if the Bills win 7 or more.

I am seriously considering flying out to Vegas and laying $50K down on the over, for real. We had 5 games last year that we lost by 3 points and almost had the worse offense in the league. Almost all the home games are sold out or close and the place will be rocking. We are going to win at least 5 games at home and I see 2 more on the road as a lock. Money in the bank, shorty what you think?

http://phoenixsports.com/NFL/NFL-Regular-Season-Wins.shtml

Remember this?? I talked my wife into it.

RockStar36
12-05-2007, 10:42 PM
Damnit.

I wish I would've seen this thread/bet before the season started. Now I'm stuck trying to parlay bets and always having some team screw me over.

Mitchy moo
12-05-2007, 10:54 PM
Skooby will be living in a cardboard box this January.

I'm going to have $50K in my box, lol.

RockStar36
12-05-2007, 10:58 PM
I'm going to have $50K in my box, lol.

I can't believe you actually put 50K on that bet.

I mean, even for a possible sure thing that is a ton of money to just throw down.

eyedog
12-05-2007, 11:13 PM
If you did put 50k down, congrats.
I put $500 on the over-6. Push is in, hoping to finish it off Sunday.

jamze132
12-06-2007, 02:48 AM
Man, you don't hear much from Wys and his ifinite wisdom anymore do ya?

Captain gameboy
12-06-2007, 04:53 AM
Call me madcap, but I did the deal yesterday.

I was at the MGM Grand during a weekend reunion, and put 100 on the beloved.
Would not have done it if it was seven, but at six, I did.

Fact is, I know that nobody here or in the sports media has any idea how this team will play, but, I think they will be better than the consensus.

I wrote this back in July.

Skooby you may have jinxed us.
It isn't over six yet.

I was sitting on this old July thread waiting till Sunday night to bring it back up.

I have a ticket from the MGM Grand that gets me $205 if we beat the Dolphins.

LtFinFan66
12-06-2007, 05:03 AM
Hey Gameboy, I expect you at the airport tomorrow to give me the VIP treatment

Captain gameboy
12-06-2007, 05:07 AM
Hey Gameboy, I expect you at the airport tomorrow to give me the VIP treatment

If you get re-routed to Sao Paulo, Brazil, I'll meet you.
Going there tonight.

LtFinFan66
12-06-2007, 05:10 AM
I'll be in a world of hurt if that happens

Captain gameboy
12-06-2007, 05:17 AM
I'll be in a world of hurt if that happens

You're a Dolphin fan.
You know no other world than one of hurt.

Seriously-- good luck on your trip and and if they try to throw you into any snow, choose the yellow pile.
It's softer and tastes better.

Mitchy moo
12-06-2007, 05:53 AM
I can't believe you actually put 50K on that bet.

I mean, even for a possible sure thing that is a ton of money to just throw down.

You should see my real estate losses, lol.

colin
12-06-2007, 07:40 AM
It's one thing to be optimistic apart from reason. It's entirely another to be foolish.

Our schedule, due to the fact that we're gonna have a defense capable of being pushed all over the field, coupled with an offense possessing only one proven weapon, a QB lacking a solid short game, and a mystery-meat RB running behind a very questionable OL after LT and LG, has us playing 8 teams up front all better than we are.

While it's nice and "optimistic" to think we're going to do whatever someone would want, and while discussing it is one thing but plunking down a ton of money is another, where we are going to come up with wins in the first eight games is a real mystery. I'd say if we win two of those games we'll be in good shape. So unless one thinks that we finish the second half going 5-3, ...

lolz @ wys!!!!

i heard even his deoderant is called WRONGguard.

lol at worrying that jp going down would hurt us too (other people said this)! jp getting hurt is the reason we have won over 2 games!!

trapezeus
12-06-2007, 11:08 AM
Skoob, $50k profit is pretty nice. With that kind of winning, you're not going to need to know rich friends. you'll be the rich friend! :-)

Congrats early. i don't think that the bills can blow all 4 games. knock on wood. they have heart....it might not be enough to get them into the playoffs but it's enough to steal one more game out of 4.

Coach Sal
12-06-2007, 11:28 AM
I was in Vegas in July and made four over/unders. I should be collecting on two of them. Here's what I bet, and what they appear to be, as far as W/L:

Wins:
--Buffalo Over 6 wins -- looking good with 4 games left
--Miami Under 7 wins -- Already a winner! I knew it was an easy play.

Losses:
--Dallas Under 10 wins -- I thought the NFC East would be too tough for them to get to 11.
--Pittsburgh Under 9.5 wins -- I didn't think they were going to be as good as they are, especially with a first-year head coach.

Since all the bets were paid for at the time of purchase, the two losses don't need to come out of my pocket. But I'll be mailing in those two winners as soon as the last regular season game ends. I'll get my bet back plus the odds on the wager. Should be about a couple hundred bucks total.

Mitchy moo
12-06-2007, 10:10 PM
Skoob, $50k profit is pretty nice. With that kind of winning, you're not going to need to know rich friends. you'll be the rich friend! :-)

Congrats early. i don't think that the bills can blow all 4 games. knock on wood. they have heart....it might not be enough to get them into the playoffs but it's enough to steal one more game out of 4.

I have taken pretty big hits in real estate so this will offset some of them. Thanks for the congrats!!

Mitchy moo
12-09-2007, 12:59 PM
Ticket in 1 hand, cross in the other.

Novacane
12-09-2007, 01:08 PM
if you're going to lay that kind of dough,i want to be there,as a witness,so i can tell everybody in here whether you're bull****ting or not.

So did you witness this or not?

Wys Guy
12-09-2007, 01:53 PM
Man, you don't hear much from Wys and his ifinite wisdom anymore do ya?

Hey, I'll chime in!

I lost wagers, with this win, to both Mikey and justasportsfan and have a running wager "per game" w/ someone else, not sure from where.

I don't think that my overall assessment of our team is off, just the record. As you know, and if you're going to be fair to me, which I realize that Hitler would have had a better chance of getting vindicated at the Nurnberg Trials, but then this team is actually worse than last season.

At the beginning of the season, again, if you and everyone else are going to be honest which again, won't happen in all likelihood, we expected the schedule to be far more difficult than it was.

NE, Dallas, Pittsburgh, and Jax were all on or about where they were supposed to be in relation to us.

Absolutely no one figured that the Dolphins would literally rival the worst teams in the history of the league.

No one expected the Jets to take the kind of step back that they did.

Baltimore, the Jets, and the Broncos were all expected by many to make the playoffs. The facts on them is that they're at the other end of the spectrum.

The Bengals are worse than most imagined, particularly their O since that's about all that they were expected to offer.

Otherwise, this is the very first game that we've "taken it to" anyone and we can all see what kind of team we are playing here. Hell, the Jets dusted this decimated team last week 40-13, in Miami.

So let's temper the emphatic "how wrong I was." As I always caveat, we have no idea until the season plays out what the schedule looks like which is why I always suggest that just because it "looks tough" up front, it may not be that bad, or b/c it appears to be easy, visa versa.

Again, I don't expect to get that kind of respect or reciprocation here.

I will say this, that this team is, statistically, fundamentally worse and has regressed in more overall fundamental categories than from last year, particularly the offense, which is where all the energies, effort, and resources went into correcting.

So gloat away, but as I see it anyone that does is merely gloating over an even worse team than last season despite our record. The facts, data, and stats fully support me on that.

Having barely beaten a collection of the league's scrubs, while often getting outplayed fundamentally in most wins regardless, and barely eking out wins in down-to-the-wire fashion isn't anything that I'd be bragging on.

Next season at this time I have absolutely no doubt that almost to a man right here you'll all be down on Jauron and others within the organization. We're not heading in the right direction as a team.

Then again, several summed it up rather nicely at the beginning of the season; the only number that matter is wins. We will not make the playoffs and will be fortunate, which is all that we've been to date this season to have outcomes barely fall on our side, to win one more game after this one.

This isn't a good team, yet some of you seem so excited about that.

Wys Guy
12-09-2007, 01:54 PM
Ticket in 1 hand, cross in the other.

Did I read that right Skoob, you put down 50K on the Bills to win more than 6?

Captain gameboy
12-09-2007, 04:20 PM
Hey, I'll chime in!

I lost wagers, with this win, to both Mikey and justasportsfan and have a running wager "per game" w/ someone else, not sure from where.

I don't think that my overall assessment of our team is off, just the record. As you know, and if you're going to be fair to me, which I realize that Hitler would have had a better chance of getting vindicated at the Nurnberg Trials, but then this team is actually worse than last season.

At the beginning of the season, again, if you and everyone else are going to be honest which again, won't happen in all likelihood, we expected the schedule to be far more difficult than it was.

NE, Dallas, Pittsburgh, and Jax were all on or about where they were supposed to be in relation to us.

Absolutely no one figured that the Dolphins would literally rival the worst teams in the history of the league.

No one expected the Jets to take the kind of step back that they did.

Baltimore, the Jets, and the Broncos were all expected by many to make the playoffs. The facts on them is that they're at the other end of the spectrum.

The Bengals are worse than most imagined, particularly their O since that's about all that they were expected to offer.

Otherwise, this is the very first game that we've "taken it to" anyone and we can all see what kind of team we are playing here. Hell, the Jets dusted this decimated team last week 40-13, in Miami.

So let's temper the emphatic "how wrong I was." As I always caveat, we have no idea until the season plays out what the schedule looks like which is why I always suggest that just because it "looks tough" up front, it may not be that bad, or b/c it appears to be easy, visa versa.

Again, I don't expect to get that kind of respect or reciprocation here.

I will say this, that this team is, statistically, fundamentally worse and has regressed in more overall fundamental categories than from last year, particularly the offense, which is where all the energies, effort, and resources went into correcting.

So gloat away, but as I see it anyone that does is merely gloating over an even worse team than last season despite our record. The facts, data, and stats fully support me on that.

Having barely beaten a collection of the league's scrubs, while often getting outplayed fundamentally in most wins regardless, and barely eking out wins in down-to-the-wire fashion isn't anything that I'd be bragging on.

Next season at this time I have absolutely no doubt that almost to a man right here you'll all be down on Jauron and others within the organization. We're not heading in the right direction as a team.

Then again, several summed it up rather nicely at the beginning of the season; the only number that matter is wins. We will not make the playoffs and will be fortunate, which is all that we've been to date this season to have outcomes barely fall on our side, to win one more game after this one.

This isn't a good team, yet some of you seem so excited about that.

No one needs to "temper" anything, and length of post does not credibility make.

You went public with this, so did a few of us.

You lost, we won.

It isn't multi variable calculus.

Just say, "Ya-I was wrong."

YardRat
12-09-2007, 04:28 PM
The facts, data, and stats fully support me on that.

I'm sure fans of the Colts are really disappointed that, statistically speaking, they had the worst run defense in the league last year.

Same for Pats fans this year. If my team were last in the league in red zone defense I'd be really pissed despite the win/loss record.

M
12-09-2007, 05:10 PM
Ticket in 1 hand, cross in the other.

Are you on a flight to Vegas, picking up your winnings???

Mitchy moo
12-09-2007, 08:14 PM
Are you on a flight to Vegas, picking up your winnings???

F-no, have to call the account to hear about how much I owe. They force F-you about how much you need them when you make big hits, that's all I ever hear. I get pitched more from my account than salesmen.

TheBrownBear
12-09-2007, 08:23 PM
Congrats to Skooby! Way to have faith and make it pay off.

To be fair to Wys, this team is worse than the record indicates. Where I differ is that I think we might be heading in the right direction with Trent Edwards as our quarterback. I think these next three weeks will tell us all we need to know about our team, and which direction it really is heading.

jamze132
12-11-2007, 12:58 AM
Well whether or not we are statistically worse than last year, we are what we are...
an above .500 team.

Romes
12-11-2007, 03:12 AM
stats are for baseball.

If one watches the games one can see what makes this around a .500 team.

John Doe
12-11-2007, 04:35 PM
I don't think that my overall assessment of our team is off, just the record. As you know, and if you're going to be fair to me, which I realize that Hitler would have had a better chance of getting vindicated at the Nurnberg Trials, but then this team is actually worse than last season.


Your "overall assessment" of our team is off.

The win/loss record is the best overall assessment of a football team.