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soapman
01-20-2009, 10:46 AM
Why does DJ look like a starter in this league and RP look like a roll player? IMO Roscoe is a much better player but they are very similar. My question is, is it the coaching style or is it the player?

Forward_Lateral
01-20-2009, 10:49 AM
Isn't Jackson a foot taller?

hydro
01-20-2009, 10:59 AM
Isn't Jackson a foot taller?

Hell no.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8826
Desean Jackson 5'10"

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7231
Roscoe Parrish 5'9"

One inch taller.

justasportsfan
01-20-2009, 11:01 AM
I would compare DJ to Evans right now. That tells you a lot about how bad this team is.

okaydo
01-20-2009, 11:10 AM
DeSean has seriously studied the wide receiver position. He's worked with his brother, a former Chiefs practice squad receiver, since he was a child.

He also was trained by Jerry Rice.

Watch...

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d807f4548


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQca0m1Pe4g


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOAsvQgltSs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPXSzia2Zfg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJAlcMyVsdI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJAlcMyVsdI)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vZMPdagSCU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B786xwLWKj4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B786xwLWKj4)

Ickybaluky
01-20-2009, 11:26 AM
I guess they are roughly the same size and are similar athletes. Both entered the draft early and they are both excellent returners.

However, Jackson is a much more polished WR. He runs better routes and knows how to set up a DB and then burn him deep. He has made a ton more big plays, both in college and in the NFL.

Just look at their college stats:

Jackson - 162 Rec for 2,423 Yds, 22 TD

Parrish - 81 Rec for 1,285, 11 TD

So Jackson was basically twice the WR in college.

Just because guys are similar athletes doesn't mean they play similar. WR requires so much more than just running and catching to be good. You have to know how to read a defense and set up your route. You need to have good techniques and make adjustments in a manner consistent with how the QB reads the defense. It isn't just running downfield.

okaydo
01-20-2009, 11:34 AM
Oh, and DeSean won the 1st ever Randy Moss Award.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOkEdXqd5NM

bigbub2352
01-20-2009, 11:34 AM
Parrish cant get open, this offense doesnt use his skills properly either, he should be getting 2-3 screens or short passes in space a game
also have him run that stupid wildcat crap, or send him long once a game and actually throw it to him
Turk sucks

Turbo.GUN.Hawk!
01-20-2009, 12:12 PM
DeSean is ten times more talented than Roscoe. They are the same size and have similar speed but still Jackson has better hands and you people should not underrate how important for a WR is the ability to run routes.

Forward_Lateral
01-20-2009, 12:13 PM
Hell no.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8826
Desean Jackson 5'10"

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7231
Roscoe Parrish 5'9"

One inch taller.

my bad. I thought Jackson was a lot taller.

yordad
01-20-2009, 12:14 PM
DeSean has seriously studied the wide receiver position. He's worked with his brother, a former Chiefs practice squad receiver, since he was a child.

He also was trained by Jerry Rice.

Watch...

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d807f4548


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQca0m1Pe4g


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOAsvQgltSs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPXSzia2Zfg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJAlcMyVsdI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJAlcMyVsdI)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vZMPdagSCU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B786xwLWKj4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B786xwLWKj4)So, your saying it is coaching?

justasportsfan
01-20-2009, 12:43 PM
Parrish cant get open, this offense doesnt use his skills properly either, he should be getting 2-3 screens or short passes in space a game
also have him run that stupid wildcat crap, or send him long once a game and actually throw it to him
Turk sucks


I guarantee that BB would make him potent in those screen passes.

Thurmal
01-20-2009, 12:44 PM
Jackson is a more complete wideout, but that doesn't change the fact that our coaching staff makes no effort to utilize Parrish. Its ridiculous, especially considering that he is one of the most dangerous people in the NFL in the open field.

Mike Lombardi, a writer and former GM of a few teams, said that Parrish (along with Devin Hester) was the most underutilized player in the league.

Of course, our coaching staff doesn't even try to get our #1 receiver who makes $9 million a year the ball; why would they be concerned with the #4 wideout?

madness
01-20-2009, 01:39 PM
Talent wise maybe, but skill wise there is no comparison between the two. Parrish has been in this league long enough but his route running is still sloppy and he occasionally has the mental lapse.

Crazygoo
01-20-2009, 06:08 PM
the only thing that i don't like about DJ is his attitude

Stewie
01-20-2009, 06:56 PM
I guess they are roughly the same size and are similar athletes. Both entered the draft early and they are both excellent returners.

However, Jackson is a much more polished WR. He runs better routes and knows how to set up a DB and then burn him deep.

All year we would hear that Roscoe is a good route runner, in fact, supposedly teammates agree he is hte best routerunner on the team. So, is Desean Jackson really much better than every wr we have?

okaydo
01-20-2009, 07:05 PM
the only thing that i don't like about DJ is his attitude


Well, he's growing up...

From Philly.com (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/10_observations_Eagles-Cardinals0120.html):


DeSean Jackson really showed me something today. At times he's been criticized (letting go of the ball before getting into the end zone against the Cowboys; the big drop late against the Redskins), but this rookie season was an unquestioned success. As a receiver, he had six catches for 92 yards and a touchdown that gave the Eagles their biggest lead of the game. But there was more. When the Eagles were trailing and nothing was going right, the cameras caught Jackson on the sideline trying to encourage McNabb. And of course, the forced fumble after the McNabb interception, which gave the Eagles the ball back. Great hustle, great concentration. Something to look forward to next year I guess.

Oaf
01-20-2009, 07:37 PM
Roscoe has the greatest change-of-direction abilities on the team. Why can't he run routes? What's really the problem with Parrish as a WR? I say coaching.

The guy usually is the fastest player on the field. Why didn't we throw the fly to him once last year. I mean, that's all they did with Hester at his WR beginnings and wow did it work. Coaching, imo.

Finally, I believe Trent and Parrish do not have great chemistry.

TacklingDummy
01-20-2009, 07:59 PM
Parrish main problem is he can't stay on the field.

Turbo.GUN.Hawk!
01-20-2009, 09:00 PM
Why can't he run routes? What's really the problem with Parrish as a WR? Ask him.

I know the coaching is bad in this team but I'm sick of some people always saying that Dick Jauron is the problem of everything. I mean it's not like we have an all-pro team full of future hall-of-famers who can't get the job done because of the coaching... we have some talent but overall we still have a mediocre team with mediocre coaches.

Turbo.GUN.Hawk!
01-20-2009, 09:04 PM
Besides, Parrish played his rookie season with Mularkey as the coach and it's not like he had the success Jackson had with Philly.

So is it really the coaching or why has Roscoe not been able to make anything important with three different offensive coordinators, two coaches, and two quaterbacks? Is it all Dick's fault?

For gods sakes, have you ever wonder about the possibility of Parrish not having the talent to be an starting WR in this league?

The Compromise
01-20-2009, 09:54 PM
Why does DJ look like a starter in this league and RP look like a roll player? IMO Roscoe is a much better player but they are very similar. My question is, is it the coaching style or is it the player?

A roll player?

What kind of rolls does he play? Dinner rolls? Sweet rolls? Cinnamon rolls?

acehole
01-21-2009, 08:18 AM
Why does DJ look like a starter in this league and RP look like a roll player? IMO Roscoe is a much better player but they are very similar. My question is, is it the coaching style or is it the player?

Sceam coaching....we should of used him like welker.

I hate this offense.

Jan Reimers
01-21-2009, 08:28 AM
Roscoe is a good return man with minimal WR skills. He doesn't get off the line well, run good routes, or get decent separation. We could probably use his speed to get him deep a couple of times per game, but he will never be a full time WR.

Mr. Pink
01-21-2009, 08:47 AM
When in doubt, never blame the player. It's always the fault of the coaching!

Bills fan motto!