Lee & TO

[The Juice Is Loose]

I'm gonna be bold and say that TO will want the ball. LOL!

Lee isn't a selfish guy, and I think he could see things opening up for him, maybe less catches but more highlights.

TO - 90 rec, 1100 yds, 10td's
Lee - 72 rec, 1300 yds, 8 td's (18ypc)

How's that sound

Oh, btw

Marshawn - 1400yds 12td's rushing, 300yds, 4 td's receiving.

Trent - 3200yds, 26 td's 14 int's 90.0 qb rating

Would we be happy with that? Would TO get a new deal with us? Would Trent be "The Guy" if he did that right there??

Just looking for opinions, as I'm bored.

[SquishDaFish]

I love those #s hopefully less INTs but would be happy

[Mahdi]

I'm gonna be bold and say that TO will want the ball. LOL!

Lee isn't a selfish guy, and I think he could see things opening up for him, maybe less catches but more highlights.

TO - 90 rec, 1100 yds, 10td's
Lee - 72 rec, 1300 yds, 8 td's (18ypc)

How's that sound

Oh, btw

Marshawn - 1400yds 12td's rushing, 300yds, 4 td's receiving.

Trent - 3200yds, 26 td's 14 int's 90.0 qb rating

Would we be happy with that? Would TO get a new deal with us? Would Trent be "The Guy" if he did that right there??

Just looking for opinions, as I'm bored.
T.O 2500 yds receiving, 35 TDs

Lee 2000 yds receiving 20 TDs

Trent 4500 yds 55 TDs.. 158.3 rating

Trent never throws a single checkdown, chucks the ball downfield every down to either Lee or T.O.... Reed blocks all day after the big boys catch it.

[OpIv37]

Those numbers are WAY too high. We still have no LG and Edwards is still completely unproven. Having TO is good but it doesn't change those things.

[shelby]

Article in the Rochester D& C:


If Buffalo Bills wide receivers Lee Evans and Terrell Owens can top the 2002 production of Eric Moulds and Peerless Price, the Bills figure to put up plenty of points this NFL season.

If Evans and Owens don't both top 1,000 yards receiving, it would be a disappointment.
Only twice in Bills history have two players topped 1,000 yards receiving in the same season:
1991 — Andre Reed (81 catches/1,113 yards/10 TD catches) and James Lofton (57 catches/1,072 yards/8 TD catches) ... Totals: 138 catches for 2,185 yards and 18 TDs.
2002 (Drew Bledsoe's first season as Buffalo's QB) — Moulds (100/1,292/10 TDs) and Price (94/1,252/9 TDs). ... Totals: 194 catches for 2,544 yards and 19 TDs.
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20090313/SPORTS0101/903130328/1007/SPORTS

[Pinkerton Security]

I'm gonna be bold and say that TO will want the ball. LOL!

Lee isn't a selfish guy, and I think he could see things opening up for him, maybe less catches but more highlights.

TO - 90 rec, 1100 yds, 10td's
Lee - 72 rec, 1300 yds, 8 td's (18ypc)

How's that sound

Oh, btw

Marshawn - 1400yds 12td's rushing, 300yds, 4 td's receiving.

Trent - 3200yds, 26 td's 14 int's 90.0 qb rating

Would we be happy with that? Would TO get a new deal with us? Would Trent be "The Guy" if he did that right there??

Just looking for opinions, as I'm bored.

I see TO with more like 70 for 1200 and around 10 TDs
Lee - 60 catches for 1000 and 4 td's

[Mahdi]

I'm gonna be bold and say that TO will want the ball. LOL!

Lee isn't a selfish guy, and I think he could see things opening up for him, maybe less catches but more highlights.

TO - 90 rec, 1100 yds, 10td's
Lee - 72 rec, 1300 yds, 8 td's (18ypc)

How's that sound

Oh, btw

Marshawn - 1400yds 12td's rushing, 300yds, 4 td's receiving.

Trent - 3200yds, 26 td's 14 int's 90.0 qb rating

Would we be happy with that? Would TO get a new deal with us? Would Trent be "The Guy" if he did that right there??

Just looking for opinions, as I'm bored.
K Seriously,

T.O. 1200 yds 11 TDs

Lee 1100 yds 8 TDs

Trent 4100 yds 29 TDs 12 INts.... 95.5 rating.

[justasportsfan]

I don't know about nos. but I doubt TO is gonna be giving tips to Lee. Looking at the guys he's supposedly taught, TO tends to mentor nobodies because they are no threat to him.

I'd be happy if he just mentors Hardy since HArdy is still a nobody.

[mercyrule]

I'm going to love seeing Evans not double covered.

[justasportsfan]

I'm going to love seeing Evans not double covered.


I just hope Trent does a better job finding him.

[mercyrule]

I just hope Trent does a better job finding him.Should be easier to see ;)

[justasportsfan]

Should be easier to see ;)

I hope so since Trent tends to see checkdown better.

[DrGraves]

Without Peters and without a LG...

T.O. : 40 receptions. 600 yards. 3 tds
Evans: 20 receptions. 340 yeards 1 td
Edwards: sacked 60 times, 4 concussions.

[Pinkerton Security]

Without Peters and without a LG...

T.O. : 40 receptions. 600 yards. 3 tds
Evans: 20 receptions. 340 yeards 1 td
Edwards: sacked 60 times, 4 concussions.

do you honestly think we're just not going to put anyone at that position? play with 4 guys??? enough of this talk.

[psubills62]

do you honestly think we're just not going to put anyone at that position? play with 4 guys??? enough of this talk.

Seriously, I love how people say "well, we don't have a LG now so..." Well gee, I guess they aren't planning on getting one then.

My thought is that first of all, Dockery was one of, if not THE, worst OG in the league in terms of sacks allowed and overall blunders. Despite what people think, even a rookie would be better. I'm going to assume we sign a mediocre starter. So that in itself is better than Dockery. Not to mention that I'm going to (maybe wrongfully) assume that Peters won't hold out this summer. Thus, his play should take a turn for the better, and we'll get better protection from his side.

We won't have an all-world line, but it should be better than last year.

[DraftBoy]

Owens-1200 yards, 8 TD
Evans-850 yards, 5 TD

[madness]

I hope so since Trent tends to see checkdown better.

"Capt. Checkdown" is...

T-18th in passes over 20 yards.
11th in yds/Att
18th in AY/Att (Air Yards, which is better than Farve, McNabb, Thigpen, Flacco, Campbell, and Cassell to name a few)

Last on that list for 2008? JP

[justasportsfan]

"Capt. Checkdown" is...

T-18th in passes over 20 yards.
11th in yds/Att
18th in AY/Att (Air Yards, which is better than Farve, McNabb, Thigpen, Flacco, Campbell, and Cassell to name a few)

Stats don't show the whole story. He's a checkdown guy.

[madness]

Stats don't show the whole story. He's a checkdown guy.

Neither do fans. We had a bum line who could barely hold the pocket and our WR's couldn't get open. What is a QB supposed to do if he goes through his reads and nobody's open or when pressure breaks down the pocket?

Trent isn't blameless since he did miss a few reads here and there which is obviously expected of a first year starter but he still got through all his reads (which is important for a young QB). He still didn't check down as much as everybody says.

[justasportsfan]

Neither do fans. We had a bum line who could barely hold the pocket and our WR's couldn't get open. What is a QB supposed to do if he goes through his reads and nobody's open or when pressure breaks down the pocket?

Trent isn't blameless since he did miss a few reads here and there which is obviously expected of a first year starter but he still got through all his reads (which is important for a young QB). He still didn't check down as much as everybody says.I wasn't blaming anyone but
he wouldn't be called Capt Checkdown (I didn't call him that) if there wasn't some truth to it.

There were times when Lee was also open and he didn't find Lee opting to go with his checkdown Reed and Lynch. Why do you think he struggled when Reed was injured. His security blanket was checking down to Reed. I'm not saying it's all his fault but he checks down a lot.

Since you like stats, our rbs last year have caught more balls than any rb tandem in bills recent history.

[madness]

I wasn't blaming anyone but
he wouldn't be called Capt Checkdown (I didn't call him that) if there wasn't some truth to it.

There were times when Lee was also open and he didn't find Lee opting to go with his checkdown Reed and Lynch. Why do you think he struggled when Reed was injured. His security blanket was checking down to Reed. I'm not saying it's all his fault but he checks down a lot.

Since you like stats, our rbs last year have caught more balls than any rb tandem in bills recent history.

...and Trent still had more air yards per attempt than most QB's which means they weren't all checkdowns.

Our offense had a WCO feel, short passes to the backs are actual plays especially when the running game is struggling due to poor run blocking. It was also no secret that Turk wanted to get the ball into the hands of ML and FJ as much as possible.

Reed isn't considered a checkdown.

[justasportsfan]

...and Trent still had more air yards per attempt than most QB's which means they weren't all checkdowns.

Our offense had a WCO feel, short passes to the backs are actual plays especially when the running game is struggling due to poor run blocking. It was also no secret that Turk wanted to get the ball into the hands of ML and FJ as much as possible.

Reed isn't considered a checkdown.
like I said, he wouldn't be called Capt. Checkdown by some peope here for no reason .

Whether you think Reed is a checkdown or not he's still the short yardage security blanket that Trent looks for.

[madness]

like I said, he wouldn't be called Capt. Checkdown by some peope here for no reason .

Whether you think Reed is a checkdown or not he's still the short yardage security blanket that Trent looks for.

wow. :shakeno:

[Mitchell55]

To be realistic

TO- 1,050 yds, 7 TDs
Lee- 1,200 yds, 6 TDs
Reed- 400 yds, 1 TDs
Parrish- 200 yds,
Johnson- 95 yds, 2 TDs
Hardy- 312 yds, 4 TDs
Lynch- 2 TD, 231
Pettigrew- 4 TD, 300 yds


Trent- 26 TDs, 16 INTs, 3788 yds, 81 cpt
Lynch- 1,300 yds, 8 TDs, 4.6 pc

[zone]

like I said, he wouldn't be called Capt. Checkdown by some peope here for no reason .

Whether you think Reed is a checkdown or not he's still the short yardage security blanket that Trent looks for.
Reed was the only guy that got open, Evans was double covered.

Reed knows how to find holes in zones hence why he was missed.

[yordad]

Reed was the only guy that got open, Evans was double covered.

Reed knows how to find holes in zones hence why he was missed.Um, no. Evans was wide open, alot. But the ball just wasn't getting thrown. After the Browns game he was so discussed he left the lockerroom without a word said to reporters. He had zero passes thrown his way the entire game. I was there, I saw him streaking wide open SEVERAL TIMES, but Edwards just kept dumping it to Lynch. After opening the game with 3 ints, Edwards was literally afraid to throw it.

And, I believe Reed is considered a check down. If your primary (Lee) is "covered", wouldn't your secondary be considered a "checkdown" if he is running a shorter route? Either way, Lynch who caught 3 times more then all the wide recievers combined (in the Browns game), is surely a checkdown.

[Jan Reimers]

I think they'll put up big combined numbers, about 150 catches for 2300 yards and 20 TDs, with Lee having more receptions and yards, but TO leading in TDs.

[Bert102176]

without an OL not good ones