Draft 2003 Mine or Theirs you decide!

[kgun12]

Ok there has been a lot of debate over the McGaHee pick and for good reason. No matter what side you are on you MUST admit, we didn't need to add at RB. We needed to address depthed at other positions more. Having said that let me show you how I would have picked. We all were hoping for Boss Bailey E. J. Henderson or a good DE in round one surprize! So here is how I would have picked You can go to your favorite draft guide to look up these players, but I used www.profootballweekly.com for this.

Here is The Bills picks

2003 BILLS DRAFT PICKS
RD(PK) NAME POS SCHOOL
1(23) WILLIS MCGAHEE RB MIAMI (FLA.)
2(16) (48)CHRIS KELSAY DE NEBRASKA
3(30) (94)ANGELO CROWELL ILB VIRGINIA ((6-0, 236, 4.74) | VIRGINIA Small)
4(14) (111)TERRENCE MCGEE CB NORTHWESTERN ST (Weathersby)
4(30) (127)SAM AIKEN WR NORTH CAROLINA (addresed later)
5(16) (151)BEN SOBIESKI OG IOWA ( too many injuries!)
6(14) (187)LAUVALE SAPE DT UTAH (Lowest score on wonderlicToo Small(6-1, 297, 5.19 | UTAH)

7(14) (228)MARIO HAGGAN MLB MISSISSIPPI STATE (good pick)

Here are my pick's

1. Bailey LB
2. Kelsay DT
3. Weathersby CB
This is the player that you take a chance on, he should be ready for camp. Could fight for Nickle back, and good insurance if we lose Winfield!
4. Scott DT (6-2, 312, 5.14) | FLORIDA
4a. Ian Sciullo OT(6-5, 330, 5.48) | MARSHALL. I would have traded pick 127 and 151 with Indy to get this guy. Will push to start in Indy!
6. Arnaz Battle WR (6-0, 217, 4.65) | NOTRE DAME Just like Aiken.
7. Haggen Could be a sleeper!

The Bills got a:
RB, DE, LB, CB, WR, OL, DT, LB. I got everything but a RB, but then again we didn't need one! These guys would have added MUCH better depthed and quality IMHO.

I also think these guys will be better player than the one the Bills pick. It will be interesting to see in 3 years.

What do you think, Let me know!

[SABURZFAN]

not too bad kgun.since i'll go along with this,this is what i would have done if i were in TD's shoes.

1.w.joseph-DT-miami fla
2.kelsay-i like that pick
3.b.james-LB-LSU
4.r.long-DT-Washington St
4t.holt-S-NCST
5.d.koppen-C-Boston College
6.m.ogden-T-Howard-brother of j.ogden-Ravens
7t.tucker-G-Southern Miss-didn't even get drafted which surprised mei feel that he's better than sobieski


i felt that we needed to upgrade the line on both sides of the ball.there were a lot of good big men in this draft to do it.i feel that winfield won't go anywhere and a WR could be gotten somewhere down the line.(Free Agency)

[The Spaz]

Well Weathersby was taken 1st pick in the 4th round and Rien Long was taken 1 pick in front of us in the 4th by the Titans. Go Bills!

[TedMock]

I was actually hoping for Weathersby in the 3rd and I was actually positive we were taking Joseph in the 1st. I think most people were positive we were taking Joseph. Kelsay was a no-brainer in the 2nd or we would've gone after Rien Long in the 3rd. I'm not sold on Boss Bailey though.

[HenryRules]

Personally, I like the Bills draft.

Bailey as a first-rounder is worse than McGahee IMO, he may provide depth this year, but he doesn't have the high potential Willis has. First-rounders should be for future stars, free agency before and after June 1st can be used to pick up depth players.

Pre-shooting I would have liked Weathersby in the third, but I think getting shot raises some character issues and I don't think drafting a player with poor character who must rehab on the first day is a good idea. I don't know the story behind Weathersby's shooting, so I can't say that I am 100%, but even if it wasn't his fault, he put himself in a bad position at a key time (obviously, if he was just going to the corner store and a guy holding up the store shot him as he fled or something similar, what I just said is wrong).

Day 2 picks I don't know enough to comment on. However, considering that I like the front office's day 1 versus your day 1, I'd say overall I'd probably like the front office's choices.

Having said that, there is one problem with evaluating the entire draft this way, you can't say for sure what other teams would have done in response to your moves ... say the Bills did take Bailey or Joseph ... who's to say that Kelsay drops to them in the 2nd? In the first round, the Bills have taken one more defensive player off the board and teams may choose to take Kelsay where they took Bailey or Joseph (or they may be a more complicated trickle-down effect). A single different choice, especially at the top, can drastically change the way that the draft unfolds and cause different players to be chosen in different spots/rounds.

[lordofgun]

HR, I'm pretty sure Weathersby was just hanging out where he grew up. I think I heard he wasn't even a target, just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Can't fault a guy for being home minding his own business. Just a FYI.

[HenryRules]

LOG, thanks. That basically means that what I said about Weathersby was wrong.

IMO, that makes kgun's Weathersby pick about equal to the Bills Crowell pick which still makes the actual draft better.

[Gunzlingr]

Weathersby was shot coming home from Church on Easter Sunday. The guy was like a 4 time academic all- american. Cant say the guy has bad character.

[HenryRules]

GZ, I already said i was wrong.

[BillsNYC]

We took the best player available by FAR in McGahee and the only one worth a first rounder. I like TD's draft as of now.

[kgun12]

Some of you have miss the point of the McGaHee pick. He was not a need! I don't think an 8-8 team has the luxury of takiing a huge chance on a guy coming off his 3rd major knee operation before his 24th b-day, NOT to mention it's the only position that we didn't need help in.

Second I agree with HR about looking at the draft this way, but go back and look at every round (ESPN has a draft tracker) the players available to us in rounds 1-4 or 5 was amazing. I just don't understand why we picked a RB with knee problem, a smaller LB, a CB from a small school, a OL with a injury problems, a DT dumber than a rock a slow WR. This draft wasn't the strongest true, I just don't like how this one played out, BUT time will tell.

[Demon]

Originally posted by SABURZFAN

1.w.joseph-DT-miami fla
2.kelsay-i like that pick
3.b.james-LB-LSU
4.r.long-DT-Washington St
4t.holt-S-NCST
5.d.koppen-C-Boston College
6.m.ogden-T-Howard-brother of j.ogden-Ravens
7t.tucker-G-Southern Miss-didn't even get drafted which surprised mei feel that he's better than sobieski

I really like this draft. Only difference i would do is draft Angelo Crowell in the 3rd round instead of James just like we did. With Posey and Spikes we have size and even Spoon, Crowell is a quick LB but small, kinda like a Dwight Frenney just not with all that skill.

[DraftBoy]

We dont have any need to try and draft starters or anybody who will push for immediate playing time. These guys are all high potential picks with some rough spots in there previous careers. They all need time to heal up and train. This draft was all about depth for TD, let me break it down how I see this draft:

1. McGahee-Wont be ready till 2004 no rush on him, but could be the biggest steal in the draft

2. Kelsay-Only immediate need pick we needed was a pass rushing DE

3. Crowell-Smallish LB needs some time to learn the system and bulk up

4a. Terence McGee-Project CB who needs time to adapt to higher paced much more intense play. Standout Div II player, but this is the big boys

4b. Sam Aiken-Great pick here, good 3rd WR to challenge Shaw but played in ACC, one of the weaker football confrences, will need time to find his role in Gilbride's offense

5. Ben Sobieski- Was touted as a highly productive player coming into Iowa has had numerous naggin injuries but played well last year relatively injury free. Needs time to mend and find a posistion.

6. Lauvale Sapp- 6-1 DT at 297 is kinda small but if he adds 20 pounds he could be a force. Kid isnt very bright but Id be willing to bet half of the players out there cant spell correctly. You dont need smarts to play DT. All you gotta know is, hit anything that moves especially if it carries a football.

7. Mario Haggan-Steal Pick, needs time to pick up system.


All our picks with the exception of Kelsay really need some time (week 7ish) before they should even be inagurated into the system for signifigant playing time. This draft was for the future we all knew that coming into the draft, we had no major holes to fill. TD did what he said he was going to do and that was aquire some depth for this team.
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[HenryRules]

W26, Sape isn't stupid, its just that English isn't his first language.

[Gunzlingr]

Originally posted by HenryRules
GZ, I already said i was wrong.

Damn it! Just admit you are wrong already!!!