When I look at our defense...

[more cowbell]

I get sick to my stomach looking at #90 starting at defensive end.

Seriously, how is this guy a starter in the league, let alone making upwards of 7 mil this season.

Obviously the coaching staff sees something in this guy because he is starting, and they don't seem to be in too much of a hurry to get Maybin into camp.

I really want to see Chris Ellis this pre-season. He didn't do much of anything last year, but i'm not ready to label this guy a bust just yet...he was a pretty damn good player in college. Let's hope the light goes on for him sooner than later because Kelsay as a starter is a big problem.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Re: When I look at our defense...

Uhmmm... He's actually making $3M in '09. Even if you choose to include his amortized bonus, he counts $5M against the cap.

In the old west, shooting from the hip gets you dead.

http://www.billszone.com/mtlog/archives/2008/02/24/billszones_2008_buffalo_bills_salary_cap_page.php

[Yasgur's Farm]

Re: When I look at our defense...

too bad our lackluster DL won't even get within arm's length of him. The only way he gets hurt against Buffalo is if he trips over his own shoelaces.

You've confused me OP... Are you in the right thread?

[OpIv37]

Re: When I look at our defense...

You've confused me OP... Are you in the right thread?

you're right- that was intended for another thread.

I don't know how I ended up in the wrong one.

[more cowbell]

Re: When I look at our defense...

Uhmmm... He's actually making $3M in '09. Even if you choose to include his amortized bonus, he counts $5M against the cap.

In the old west, shooting from the hip gets you dead.

http://www.billszone.com/mtlog/archi...y_cap_page.php

okay excuse me for being 2 million off on kelsay's camp number for this season.

doesnt excuse the fact that he is still overpaid

[Goobylal]

Re: When I look at our defense...

okay excuse me for being 2 million off on kelsay's camp number for this season.

doesnt excuse the fact that he is still overpaid

You could have used your screen name when starting this thread.

[DMBcrew36]

Re: When I look at our defense...

Kelsay isn't the only one who makes me sick about our defensive-end situation. Our defense having success depends greatly on the defensive-ends getting to the QB and we have no one who can generate pressure on a regular basis.

[jamze132]

Re: When I look at our defense...

Our pass rush is going to be as stagnant as last year. It makes me want to kick Jauron in the back of the nuts.

[Hemlepp53]

Re: When I look at our defense...

If we get Maybin into camp and ink on the contract we should be seeing Kelsay riding the pine. I am one who expects big things on the field from him. Regardless of size.

[ServoBillieves]

Re: When I look at our defense...

I get excited seeing Poz, 2 shut down corners, Kawika Mitchell, Marcus Stroud, Kyle Williams, strong corner depth, a possible breakout season at SS (sorry Op, you never know) and strong safety depth. A healthy Schobel excites me even more.

[DMBcrew36]

Re: When I look at our defense...

I get excited seeing Poz, 2 shut down corners, Kawika Mitchell, Marcus Stroud, Kyle Williams, strong corner depth, a possible breakout season at SS (sorry Op, you never know) and strong safety depth. A healthy Schobel excites me even more.

All of those players you listed (with the exception of Schobel) require the defensive-ends to get to the QB. Poor defensive-ends makes everyone else on D look worse. Since our DEs can't do ****, how can you get too excited about any of the rest of them?

[ServoBillieves]

Re: When I look at our defense...

All of those players you listed (with the exception of Schobel) require the defensive-ends to get to the QB. Poor defensive-ends makes everyone else on D look worse. Since our DEs can't do ****, how can you get too excited about any of the rest of them?

Kawika blitzing is on par with a DE IMO... he always tends to wreak havoc. I also like the looks that Poz and Mitch are giving this year, can never tell if they're blitzing or what.

[Hemlepp53]

Re: When I look at our defense...

A healthy Schobel excites me even more.

Schobel needs to show his ass this season and show what he can do. Our line can and should be a beast this season. I expect alot out of the DEFENSE with the line we have on roster.

[jamze132]

Re: When I look at our defense...

Schobel needs to show his ass this season and show what he can do. Our line can and should be a beast this season. I expect alot out of the DEFENSE with the line we have on roster.

But we already know what a healthy Schobel brings to our defense. About 7-9 garbage time sacks.

How in the hell do you expect a lot out of the defense with the line we have? What do you see that I don't? Educate me.

[DMBcrew36]

Re: When I look at our defense...

But we already know what a healthy Schobel brings to our defense. About 7-9 garbage time sacks.

How in the hell do you expect a lot out of the defense with the line we have? What do you see that I don't? Educate me.

I'm with you. Schobel didn't show **** in his 3+ games before he got injured last year. I just remember 1 garbage sack against a poor Seattle Seahawks team when the game was already over.