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kernowboy
01-27-2010, 02:07 PM
Firstly we resign Bob Saunders last season's DL coach who has previously worked almost exclusively with 4-3 lines and left the Packers because they moved to the 3-4

Secondly, Giff Smith has been recruited as a defensive assistant. No mention at all of the term outside linebacker coach.

Might it be that both Gailey and Nix have realised that there would be more of an upheval than initially thought in shifting to a 3-4 defence and that it seems that this defence is once again seemingly losing popularity with the overall success of 4-3 defensive teams getting to the SuperBowl.

It would not surprise me that the DC might be happy running either formation which I think would be the best outcome for the Bills.

WeAreArthurMoates
01-27-2010, 02:08 PM
That's actually a good question? Watch it be Bates when it's all said and done.

NOT THE DUDE...
01-27-2010, 02:10 PM
hasnt it already been reported that buffalo is going to a 34 defense?

psubills62
01-27-2010, 02:11 PM
Firstly we resign Bob Saunders last season's DL coach who has previously worked almost exclusively with 4-3 lines and left the Packers because they are moved to the 3-4

I agree with you that people are jumping to conclusions. And a message board poster saying Giff Smith is coaching our OLB's isn't exactly a reliable source.

However, that's not why Sanders left the Packers. Sanders was fired. IMO it was fairly unjust, as his defense had numerous injuries and thus performed poorly.

kernowboy
01-27-2010, 02:11 PM
hasnt it already been reported that buffalo is going to a 34 defense?

I think assumed rather than reported

BoyILuvLoznStupidly
01-27-2010, 02:12 PM
hasnt it already been reported that buffalo is going to a 34 defense?

no it's all been speculation

Dicknoze69
01-27-2010, 02:13 PM
Sanders and Giff's titles are very vague and leave room for interpretation about what their actual roles will be. Yesterday I was fairly convinced we were going to a 3-4. Today's announcement leaves me a little less convinced, but I still think it's likely.

kernowboy
01-27-2010, 02:15 PM
I actually think we will wait until free agency and the draft occur before making a final decision.

I think Nix will want to draft players not simply because they fit a system but because they are the best available.

I don't think he would pass on a 4-3 LE simply to reach for someone because they are more suited to the 3-4

BoyILuvLoznStupidly
01-27-2010, 02:22 PM
IMO i would say no. Why would you want to rebuild both sides of the ball. Especially after Buddy said he thought we are close to winning. It makes more sense to add one or two pieces to the defensive side of the ball and focus more on the offensive side where we have been atrocious.

kernowboy
01-27-2010, 02:26 PM
IMO i would say no. Why would you want to rebuild both sides of the ball. Especially after Buddy said he thought we are close to winning. It makes more sense to add one or two pieces to the defensive side of the ball and focus more on the offensive side where we have been atrocious.

I completely agree. Some of our young LBs like Harris and Palmer seem unsuited to the 3-4.

Our existing defence automatically becomes better with an improved offence as they have more rest time

BoyILuvLoznStupidly
01-27-2010, 02:37 PM
I completely agree. Some of our young LBs like Harris and Palmer seem unsuited to the 3-4.

Our existing defence automatically becomes better with an improved offence as they have more rest time

Exactly, we would have no depth on the D side of the ball if we moved to a 34. I think they will add a LB to replace Ellison and then turn their focus to the O.

RockStar36
01-27-2010, 02:39 PM
no it's all been speculation

No, it was definitely reported today that the Bills are switching to the 3-4.

BoyILuvLoznStupidly
01-27-2010, 02:41 PM
No, it was definitely reported today that the Bills are switching to the 3-4.

By who?


:link:

WeAreArthurMoates
01-27-2010, 02:42 PM
That's true about Sanders, he was fired as the DC. There was no way he would take a demotion.

kernowboy
01-27-2010, 02:44 PM
That's actually a good question? Watch it be Bates when it's all said and done.

Sanders served under Bates in Miami when Bates ran the 4-3 using Bowens and Gardner in the middle

patmoran2006
01-27-2010, 02:48 PM
I reported it.

And my report was BEFORE the GT was announced as a new coach.

And I still stand by it.. and if i'm wrong, I'll take the heat that comes with it.

ParanoidAndroid
01-27-2010, 02:51 PM
I would be willing to bet that they will run a hybrid from a 3-4 base. We at least know that the cover-2 is dead in Buffalo.

kernowboy
01-27-2010, 02:53 PM
Or we go with a Bates/Jim Johnson 4-3 with two big DTs, more man coverage, and blitzing speed from the Ends and LBs

patmoran2006
01-27-2010, 02:55 PM
i was told by the same source that told me George Catavolos was returning that we were moving onto a 3-4 defense, so I will stand by it and get flamed if Bates or Sanders or a guy like that is the new DC

RockStar36
01-27-2010, 02:56 PM
By who?


:link:

He already told you, but here is the link.

http://www.buffalosportsdaily.com/2010/01/im-told-bills-to-switch-to-3-4-defense/

BoyILuvLoznStupidly
01-27-2010, 02:58 PM
He already told you, but here is the link.

http://www.buffalosportsdaily.com/2010/01/im-told-bills-to-switch-to-3-4-defense/

LMAO sorry did not catch the sarcasm. That is not official in my eyes, that's "how would you say it" speculation

patmoran2006
01-27-2010, 03:02 PM
LMAO sorry did not catch the sarcasm. That is not official in my eyes, that's "how would you say it" speculation

Dont blame your skepticism-- I find it hard to figure myself. but Catavolos turned out to be not speculation, so I think we should see how things play out.

RockStar36
01-27-2010, 03:10 PM
LMAO sorry did not catch the sarcasm. That is not official in my eyes, that's "how would you say it" speculation

I'm taking it as real news.

It's on a legit site, not a message board, and definitely doesn't seem like opinion.

patmoran2006
01-27-2010, 03:19 PM
I definitely did not report it as opinion, I reported 3-4 and Catavolos as fact..


Why do I get the feeling you're praying for a 4-3 guy? lol

BoyILuvLoznStupidly
01-27-2010, 03:23 PM
I'm taking it as real news.

It's on a legit site, not a message board, and definitely doesn't seem like opinion.

I got a bridge for sale, you interested?

RockStar36
01-28-2010, 07:39 AM
I definitely did not report it as opinion, I reported 3-4 and Catavolos as fact..


Why do I get the feeling you're praying for a 4-3 guy? lol

I'm not at all.

I want you to be right.

It would be a nice change of pace.