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Night Train
12-15-2012, 07:18 AM
The obvious opinion to many is Ralph is too disconnected to do anything or care. I bet he still understands :$:... and what Littman and Brandon tell him about declining gate revenue could trigger a change.

That Gailey may have a year left on his deal means little. They're currently paying a QB 1.75 Mil to be a healthy scratch every Sunday. Checkmate.

Brandon is the team President and runs the team locally. He also has to market the team. Gailey & Fitz equals season ticket renewels ? In what world ? Unless I live for the tailgate and stay blind to the on field product, I'm staying home.

Nix is 73, a scout first (not a GM) and his more than ready 40 something replacement is already here (Whaley). Think Whaley doesn't understand the value of a QB with an actual arm and mobility to keep a play alive ? Picking a coach that actually knows how to use his weapons properly (see Spiller) and knowing that the game has actually evolved ? I'd sure be willing to give him that chance.

Is Ralph and the front office afraid of a young sharp black man in charge, after having Boss Hogg and Roscoe P. Coltrane do nothing for 3 years while touting their stubborn positions that don't yield results ?

Apathy towards change isn't a good marketing angle for future success & ticket sales. Something tells me Brandon knows this better than his 94 year old boss.

Talent is here and more is needed. What isn't needed is the current mindset of settling for 5-6 wins and not doing something to improve.

A Head Coach with vision, QB & MLB is a good start. It also may revive the ticket buying public.

I'll buy the Club Seats I walked away from 3 years ago... if the right moves are made.

Skooby
12-15-2012, 08:22 AM
Chan & Buddy are going no where, like this team.

YardRat
12-15-2012, 12:51 PM
Bag 'em both. Promote Whaley, and get a HC in here who knows how to hire quality coordinators that can properly utilize the talent on the roster. Hopefully we can snag Te'o in the first, and a QB in the second or move back up for one. Playoffs.

TrEd FTW
12-15-2012, 01:05 PM
I really hope you're right, but they'll probably keep those morons for at least another year and try to drive ticket sales by signing a good free agent (Dwayne Bowe?) and drafting a QB; unfortunately, that'll likely be enough to get people to RWS in droves even with the incompetent trio from hell - Nix, Gailey and Fitzpatrick - still in the organization.

SpikedLemonade
12-15-2012, 01:28 PM
I hope they are both gone as soon as the season is over.

NOT THE DUDE...
12-15-2012, 02:27 PM
when you spend the money we did, and you have a losing record..... do i really have to say?

Typ0
12-15-2012, 10:33 PM
I am always hearing how $$$ spent on players means they will spend $$$ on coaches. I hate to tell you this but player salaries are part of a whole separate cauldron of $$$ that are modeled and supplemented in the revenue sharing agreements. To continue to keep this line of thinking active is to empower the marketing BS of OBD!!!!

BertSquirtgum
12-15-2012, 10:52 PM
Hitler never wanted Gailey hired in the first place.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sf9tKmyni4

Skooby
12-15-2012, 10:53 PM
Here's to hoping.

Buddo
12-16-2012, 07:21 AM
Gailey maybe, but I can't see Nix being canned tbh.
I believe that Ralph trusts Nix as a talent evaluator, and I also think he's right to do so.
The point made earlier about paying for coaches, is well made. Ralph has always been prepared to pay, or pay for, players, it's coaches he doesn't like paying, as that affects his bottom line, far more than giving big $ to players, when most of that money has to be spent anyway.
Should Gailey be canned, the problem then becomes who do you get to replace him?
Closely followed by what defensive scheme would he be thinking of running?
The D is actually improving, and with one or two additions, could well progress to what we thought it could be this year, next year. But only if whatever DC we have, isn't going to go to a 3-4. The likes of Moore and Carrington, have come through, and have found their niche, and that gives the D good options, and depth. The D is very close to being in the state of 'if it isn't broke' don't fix it'.
In actual fact, the last few games can solidify, or deny that statement, as both the Squawks and Jest will try to run all over us. If the D withstands them well, then I think it's safe to say they are going to get better still, but only if any scheme change, is within a 4-3 base.

YardRat
12-16-2012, 09:28 AM
I am always hearing how $$$ spent on players means they will spend $$$ on coaches.

I've never heard that.

Night Train
12-16-2012, 06:43 PM
Any questions ?

EDS
12-17-2012, 08:47 AM
The obvious opinion to many is Ralph is too disconnected to do anything or care. I bet he still understands :$:... and what Littman and Brandon tell him about declining gate revenue could trigger a change.

That Gailey may have a year left on his deal means little. They're currently paying a QB 1.75 Mil to be a healthy scratch every Sunday. Checkmate.

Brandon is the team President and runs the team locally. He also has to market the team. Gailey & Fitz equals season ticket renewels ? In what world ? Unless I live for the tailgate and stay blind to the on field product, I'm staying home.

Nix is 73, a scout first (not a GM) and his more than ready 40 something replacement is already here (Whaley). Think Whaley doesn't understand the value of a QB with an actual arm and mobility to keep a play alive ? Picking a coach that actually knows how to use his weapons properly (see Spiller) and knowing that the game has actually evolved ? I'd sure be willing to give him that chance.

Is Ralph and the front office afraid of a young sharp black man in charge, after having Boss Hogg and Roscoe P. Coltrane do nothing for 3 years while touting their stubborn positions that don't yield results ?

Apathy towards change isn't a good marketing angle for future success & ticket sales. Something tells me Brandon knows this better than his 94 year old boss.

Talent is here and more is needed. What isn't needed is the current mindset of settling for 5-6 wins and not doing something to improve.

A Head Coach with vision, QB & MLB is a good start. It also may revive the ticket buying public.

I'll buy the Club Seats I walked away from 3 years ago... if the right moves are made.



Do you really trust Whaley to get the job done? He is the hand picked assistant of . . . Buddy!!!!! This is akin to Ralph deciding to hire Buddy all over again because he is already on staff and because it is easy.

Why not do a proper search for a legitimate GM candidate? Do we really want anyone who has been influnenced by Buddy?

I sure don't.

Night Train
12-17-2012, 08:52 AM
Do you really trust Whaley to get the job done? He is the hand picked assistant of . . . Buddy!!!!! This is akin to Ralph deciding to hire Buddy all over again because he is already on staff and because it is easy.

Why not do a proper search for a legitimate GM candidate? Do we really want anyone who has been influnenced by Buddy?

I sure don't.

I bet Whaley doesn't have one thing in common with Buddy, who is nothing more than a glorified scout thrown into a job he can't handle by a disconnected owner.

I sat in the Maguire club, with Nix and Whaley sitting right behind me in the GM box. They sat apart from each other and never talked. One paid his dues, moving up slowly in the Steelers organization and learning. One was a scout Ralph knew.

EDS
12-17-2012, 08:58 AM
I bet Whaley doesn't have one thing in common with Buddy, who is nothing more than a glorified scout thrown into a job he can't handle by a disconnected owner.

I sat in the Maguire club, with Nix and Whaley sitting right behind me in the GM box. They sat apart from each other and never talked. One paid his dues, moving up slowly in the Steelers organization and learning. One was a scout Ralph knew.

If Whaley was so good why did he leave the Steelers, a far superior organization, to make a lateral move to Buffalo? Whaley is not the answer.

bf1
12-17-2012, 09:10 AM
Nix and Gailey made the team worse. They need to go.

Ingtar33
12-17-2012, 09:55 AM
Nix is 73, a scout first (not a GM) and his more than ready 40 something replacement is already here (Whaley). Think Whaley doesn't understand the value of a QB with an actual arm and mobility to keep a play alive ? Picking a coach that actually knows how to use his weapons properly (see Spiller) and knowing that the game has actually evolved ? I'd sure be willing to give him that chance.

Is Ralph and the front office afraid of a young sharp black man in charge, after having Boss Hogg and Roscoe P. Coltrane do nothing for 3 years while touting their stubborn positions that don't yield results ?

its hard to promote someone from within that disaster of a front office. I get that he's from Pittsburgh, and is well known as a skilled scout, but what makes him qualified to be an NFL GM other then the fact he's got bad judgement (that porn email?), left Pitsburgh and the Bills were the only team willing to hire him afterwards... wait, you're right. This has future Bills GM written all over it.

bf1
12-17-2012, 09:58 AM
Congrats Buddy and Chan, you've reached a new low!
http://nycbbb.com/notes/coaching/

Ingtar33
12-17-2012, 10:11 AM
Mike Mularkey, Perry Fewell then Dick being the top 3 coaches since Wade...

I still don't know why they didn't just hire Fewell. I mean when they hired Gailey all I could think was "might as well stuck with Fewell". At least the players played for Fewell.

Night Train
12-17-2012, 10:37 AM
and yet the Bills gave a freakin' CFL scout a shot at asst. GM job, strictly on Marv Levys word.. taking over as GM when the other guy had a heart attack (Terry Bledsoe)

What was his name again ? P..P...Polian, that's it.



This just in...there's a first in everything. You train Whaley, then give him his shot.

DraftBoy
12-17-2012, 10:39 AM
and yet the Bills gave a freakin' CFL scout a shot at asst. GM job, strictly on Marv Levys word.. taking over as GM when the other guy had a heart attack (Terry Bledsoe)

What was his name again ? P..P...Polian, that's it.



This just in...there's a first in everything. You train Whaley, then give him his shot.

Give Whaley the GM job and lets see who he brings in as a Head Coach.

One of the names not mentioned in the piece I put on BBD today was Tressman.

EDS
12-17-2012, 10:44 AM
and yet the Bills gave a freakin' CFL scout a shot at asst. GM job, strictly on Marv Levys word.. taking over as GM when the other guy had a heart attack (Terry Bledsoe)

What was his name again ? P..P...Polian, that's it.

Who is Whaley being trained by? You said above that he doesn't spend time with Nix (which probably is a good thing).

This just in...there's a first in everything. You train Whaley, then give him his shot.

starrymessenger
12-17-2012, 12:53 PM
IDK about Nix, though I would'nt be surprised if he retired (perhaps under some pressure to do so) but I don't see how they can do anything but can the Chan. Its not like he is getting an extension either this year or next so whats the point in keeping him around? Certainly not his demonstrated ability. How can you go into a season knowing that the HC, his system, his beloved QB, his coaching hires etc... are all on death watch? It won't happen. It just can't. Chan is done.

Cleve
12-17-2012, 04:23 PM
A normal team would can Gailey. But then, a normal team probably wouldn't have hired him as HC in the first place either. The team doesn't seem terribly interested in doing anything to turn itself into a winning franchise. After the HORRENDOUS drubbing the team took in Weeks 4 & 5, and a franchise record in points surrendered in two consecutive games, not ONE person was fired! Not one! And it was after the week 5 shellacking they suffered from the 49ers, that Gailey admitted on air, on WGR, that he hadn't even discussed the team's HORRENDOUS defensive performance against the Patriots with Wannstedt, but he promised that he would after the loss to the 49ers. Apparently because he's an 'offensive' coach??? Hello, he's supposed to be the head coach, and supposed to be involved in the entire team performance, offensively AND defensively. I find it hard to believe he wouldn't have been fired in the 70s, 80s or 90s for such admissions.

What's amazing to me.... with "leadership" like that, the team even has FIVE wins this season.

BertSquirtgum
12-17-2012, 05:39 PM
If Whaley was so good why did he leave the Steelers, a far superior organization, to make a lateral move to Buffalo? Whaley is not the answer.

because he knew it would be at least ten years before he got a shot to be the GM there.