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  • X-Era
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
    • Feb 2005
    • 27670

    What is your biggest concern with Marrone?

    My biggest issue is whether or not he can earn the respect of the players. Will he be respected? Will they listen to him?

    This is a bit different that when we hire a guy like Chan. If you remember, players came out and mentioned his credentials. How they listen to him because of what he's done.

    Marrone has been a coordinator which will help him gain traction. But, he hasn't been a head coach.

    This is a situation where he's a disciplinarian, he may demand the players play his way. And without the pedigree to show he knows what to do because he's succeeded at this level as head coach, it could turn players off. He's also been reported to be a players coach and seeks to establish good relationships.

    The good news is I don't think we have any prima donna's who will publicly question him.

    I'm excited for the hire and what he may do. But I do have this one concern.

    What's yours?
    Last edited by X-Era; 01-08-2013, 05:33 AM.

  • jamze132
    Don’t hate…
    • Jun 2003
    • 29401

    #2
    Re: What is your biggest concern with Marrone?

    He's new?

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    • billsfanryan
      Registered User
      • Jan 2010
      • 161

      #3
      Re: What is your biggest concern with Marrone?

      11-17 against the big east. One of our biggest problems is that we can't win in our division and that record doesn't give me confidence that he can win in our division.

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      • RedEyE
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 24661

        #4
        Re: What is your biggest concern with Marrone?

        He's a bit of an unknown and has limited experience as an HC. My biggest fear is that it takes him a greater part of the year just learning the job in the NFL. On top of that, I'm concerned about Brandon and Co. having signed a "yes man" to project their own ideas through.

        I would have preferred a coach with more experience and one that could have come in, immediately grabbed the team by the reigns, and have them off onto the right direction day one.

        With that being said, he's here. Time to support him and hope for the best.

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        • zone
          No, look. I do mind. The Dude minds.
          • Oct 2003
          • 2535

          #5
          Re: What is your biggest concern with Marrone?

          No concerns here, I say he gets it done.
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          • coastal
            Legendary Zoner
            • Mar 2005
            • 15514

            #6
            Re: What is your biggest concern with Marrone?

            Originally posted by zone View Post
            No concerns here, I say he gets it done.
            Superbowl bound baby!!!

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            • Fletch
              Registered User
              • May 2007
              • 3166

              #7
              Re: What is your biggest concern with Marrone?

              Originally posted by billsfanryan View Post
              11-17 against the big east. One of our biggest problems is that we can't win in our division and that record doesn't give me confidence that he can win in our division.
              Not only that, but everyone's overplaying his achievements at SU. The Big East, when it comes to football, is Conference USA's equal, nothing more. He went 8-5 in 2010 too but followed that season up with a 5-7 one, again with Nassib at QB.

              His Orange didn't beat any good teams outside of the conference there either. The bowl appearances are murky at best because the Pinstripe Bowl didn't even exist four seasons ago, and he ended up playing an immensely overrated WVU team this season in it and in 2010, the bowl's inaugural year, his Orange took on a 7-6 KSU team that wasn't good.

              So how impressive was his time at SU? Bowl appearances have become as meaningless as NBA or NHL teams making the playoffs since in the quest for more dollars there are now as many bowl games to include over half the teams in the NCAA. All that means is that a team was mediocre or worse if they didn't make a bowl. If the Pinstripe Bowl hadn't been created in 2010 then the Orange would not have made any bowls.

              Otherwise, with what is now one of the top-rated QBs in the draft, Marrone managed only to get to 8-5. With Nassib gone, how well would he have done next this season at SU? It wouldn't be a reach to suggest that he may have been in for another 5-7 season or perhaps even a little worse.

              Also, if he didn't call the plays in NO offensively, then what did he do? How did he contribute to their winning games? No one has answered that yet.

              As this guy points out, http://thedailynewsonline.com/sports...bb2963f4.html:

              Marrone gets a lot of credit for his work as offensive coordinator with the New Orleans Saints and for his work with quarterback Drew Brees. But he never got to call the plays there; head coach Sean Payton did that. And Brees got even better after he left, setting a record last year for passing yardage in a season. And, oh yeah, the Saints also won the Super Bowl after Marrone left.

              Talk is cheap this time of year.
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              Post #46

              Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
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              Originally Posted by pmoon6
              The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

              You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

              Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

              The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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              "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

              "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

              "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

              Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

              "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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              • jimmifli
                Registered User
                • Nov 2006
                • 7827

                #8
                Re: What is your biggest concern with Marrone?

                That he was picked by Russ. The guy that brought us the last decade of football.

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                • Night Train
                  Retired - On Several Levels
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 33117

                  #9
                  Re: What is your biggest concern with Marrone?

                  No concern.

                  He's a flat out unknown at this level. No criticism.

                  An unpatient fanbase wants something to go on but must wait until the games start. I'll give him a chance over proven failures like Whiz & Lovie.

                  You don't hire people just fired and think that's a good idea.
                  Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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                  • mjt328
                    Registered User
                    • May 2011
                    • 636

                    #10
                    Re: What is your biggest concern with Marrone?

                    Positives:
                    > Marrone apparently has the reputation as a tireless worker, who gives ALL of his time to the job. I can't think of the last time we had a coach with that kind of work ethic.
                    > He's going to be overseeing both sides of the ball - and delegating authority to his coordinators. Hopefully this brings more balance and unity to our team.
                    > His comments to the media suggest that he's willing to work with the talent on the team, rather than blow everything up and bring "his" system in.

                    Concerns:
                    > He's been a coordinator, but never a head coach in the NFL. Many great coordinators fail at that jump.
                    > The staff he hires will be critical. Does he have the connections around the league to get experienced coaches, or will he have to pull from the college ranks?
                    > Does he have a good eye for talent? The quarterback we choose in April will likely be THE decision that makes his coaching career or kills it.
                    2013 "My Should Have" Draft
                    Posted During the 2013 Draft
                    1 - (16): Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
                    2 - (41): Robert Woods, WR, USC
                    2 - (46): Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State
                    3 - (78): Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
                    4 - (105): Barrett Jones, OG, Alabama
                    5 - (143): Brandon Jenkins, LB, Florida State
                    6 - (177): Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech
                    7 - (222): Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee

                    2013 Buddy Nix Draft
                    1 - (16): E.J. Manuel, QB, Florida State
                    2 - (41): Robert Woods, WR, USC
                    2 - (46): Kiko Alonso, LB, Oregon
                    3 - (78): Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas
                    4 - (105): Duke Williams, FS, Nevada
                    5 - (143): Jonathan Meeks, SS, Clemson
                    6 - (177): Dustin Hopkins, K, Florida State
                    7 - (222): Chris Gragg, TE, Arkansas

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                    • Ed
                      Dude
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 9247

                      #11
                      Re: What is your biggest concern with Marrone?

                      My concern is if he makes Buffalo less appealing to free agents than it already is.

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                      • justasportsfan
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71601

                        #12
                        Re: What is your biggest concern with Marrone?

                        I'd be more worried about Chip Kelly gaining respect from the players. Marrone at least played and coached in the NFL.
                        My worry is still getting the right asst. coaches.
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                        • The Jokeman
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 9995

                          #13
                          Re: What is your biggest concern with Marrone?

                          Originally posted by justasportsfan View Post
                          I'd be more worried about Chip Kelly gaining respect from the players. Marrone at least played and coached in the NFL.
                          My worry is still getting the right asst. coaches.
                          And Mel Tucker was the first name to emerge as a DC which to me is a horrible choice. I just hope we don't get him.

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                          • Bill Cody
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 11915

                            #14
                            Re: What is your biggest concern with Marrone?

                            I hope he gets a few gray beards on his staff. I love the energy and you can't get any better experience than working with Sean Payton and running that offense. I also like the fact that he's been the man in charge, even if it's college, that will help him a lot. But he needs a QB, preferably Tyler Wilson who has a solid arm and is as tough as nails. They can grow together. Having the young QB will get Bills fans to relax and enjoy the show. So my biggest concern is that we don't get Tyler Wilson. Geno will be gone and I'm not sold on the rest of the QB's coming out.

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                            • justasportsfan
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 71601

                              #15
                              Re: What is your biggest concern with Marrone?

                              Originally posted by The Jokeman View Post
                              And Mel Tucker was the first name to emerge as a DC which to me is a horrible choice. I just hope we don't get him.
                              Don't know much about him other than this .
                              The Jaguars improved defensively from 28th in 2010 to sixth in 2011, the second-largest improvement in the NFL, and improved in nearly every statistical category from the previous season. In 2011 Tucker’s defense allowed 313.0 yards per game, the fewest since 2006, and ranked ninth in rushing yards per game (104.2), eighth in passing (208.8), second in fewest completions of 20-plus yards (43), third in fewest plays of 20-plus yards (51), second in most three-and-out drives (57) and third in first downs allowed per game (16.8).


                              The Jaguars however runs a 4-3 which would sound well for Mario. I just want a DC who can light the fire of both Mario and especially Dareus .
                              sacrifice1
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