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  • jamze132
    Don’t hate…
    • Jun 2003
    • 29415

    EJ Manuel's Accuracy

    Is it just me or does EJ not possess the natural accuracy gene that elite QBs possess? It seems like the majority of his passes are off the mark which normally leads to (1) INT, (2) incompletion, (3) receiver tipping the ball into the air, (4) receiver getting destroyed by a DB, or (5) receiver making the catch but losing all momentum and/or footing resulting in an immediate tackle.

    Or am I off base here? I know I don't have a Masters degree in QB development but I am a die-hard Bills fan so I know exactly what a ****ty QB looks like.
  • justasportsfan
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 71616

    #2
    Re: EJ Manuel's Accuracy

    he cant even dink on target.
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    • Uncle Jesse
      Registered User
      • Sep 2004
      • 1396

      #3
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      You can't teach accuracy. You can work on the foot work and mechanics, but in the end it's just something you can do. He can't. It was all over his scouting reports too.

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      • Night Train
        Retired - On Several Levels
        • Jul 2005
        • 33117

        #4
        Re: EJ Manuel's Accuracy

        Throws a good slant and post.

        When he has to feather a swing pass over the DE/OLB to a RB or arch a deep ball on the sideline fly pattern, he needs practice. Tells me he didn't have to do it at Fla. St. and needs to practice the basics with his position coach.

        Not the first guy who showed up a bit raw needing work. They drafted the athlete knowing this.
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        • OpIv37
          Acid Douching Asswipe
          • Sep 2002
          • 101330

          #5
          Re: EJ Manuel's Accuracy

          Before this past game, EJ had actually done pretty well in terms of not throwing INT's. Howevwr, he does tend to lead guys into hits and stop guys in their tracks, which is frustrating cuz Fitz had the same problem.
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          • k-oneputt
            Registered User
            • Jun 2009
            • 7132

            #6
            Re: EJ Manuel's Accuracy

            The guy did this his whole career at Fla. St. This is nothing new.

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            • Thurmal
              Registered User
              • Oct 2005
              • 2412

              #7
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              Entrusting the Bills to pick out decent QBs is like entrusting a 12-year old girl to pick the music for a cross-country road trip.
              "Miami played pretty damn good today and still got their ass kicked."

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              • TacklingDummy
                Unreachable Douche
                • Jul 2002
                • 71725

                #8
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                • kishoph
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 3157

                  #9
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                  Manuel does seem to have some accuracy problems, to me he seems like he has a harder time with it in the first half of games, but overall his percentage of poor throws per attempt, is not that bad. I used stats in another thread to show this, in fact his percentage of poor throw per all attempts is a fraction lower than Tom Brady's (I am not saying he's better than Brady). He has some bad throws, sometimes horrible (the throws out of bounds), but all his passes are not bad, like some people want to imply.

                  Blaming Manuel for the hit on Woods is ridiculous IMO, but too many people bought into it because, the color commentator for the game (Steve Beurlein) said so. In the pic below, the ball (circled) has already left Manuel's hands, Woods is coming across the middle (#1), Revis (#2) who made the hit, has just broke off his coverage of Hogan (#3), who was coming back towards the line of scrimmage, because Manuel was scrambling. Is Manuel really suppose to see two receivers at once, when they are half the width of a football field and 10 yards away from each other, and also expect that Revis is going to be able to break off his coverage and and cover the distance to make the hit. If anything at all it was a great play by Revis, although a hit on a defenseless receiver. Also if you watch the replay, you can see Woods reach back for the ball and not running to it and Revis. I'm sorry about being long winded about it, but I'm tired of people (not just on this board) blaming Manuel for the hit on Woods.

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                  • WagonCircler
                    Escaped Convict
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 5876

                    #10
                    Re: EJ Manuel's Accuracy

                    It's abundantly clear, especially after last week's debacle, that EJ can throw accurately when he has good protection, but has horrendous accuracy when he has poor protection.

                    This is why he was considered a project by so many teams.

                    This is a massive hole in his game that it's hard to imagine being turned into a strength.

                    Some QBs are NFL ready starters coming out of college. It's clear that EJ is not one of those guys.

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                    • k-oneputt
                      Registered User
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 7132

                      #11
                      Re: EJ Manuel's Accuracy

                      I see one quality - he is big, tough to tackle, and can scramble out of pressure.

                      I also see a qb that - can't throw the ball downfield, is not accurate with his throws, locks on to his #1 option, has poor instincts and feel in the pocket, looks afraid to trust his ability { what he has}, and takes to long to deliver the ball.

                      But that's just me. I'm sure the Bill's superscouts know better.

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                      • justasportsfan
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71616

                        #12
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                        Originally posted by WagonCircler View Post
                        It's abundantly clear, especially after last week's debacle, that EJ can throw accurately when he has good protection, but has horrendous accuracy when he has poor protection.

                        This is why he was considered a project by so many teams.

                        This is a massive hole in his game that it's hard to imagine being turned into a strength.

                        Some QBs are NFL ready starters coming out of college. It's clear that EJ is not one of those guys.

                        EJ's accuracy sucks when he is in a rush or in a panic mode . He reverted back to not trusting his receivers not named Woods or Johnson.
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                        • jamze132
                          Don’t hate…
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 29415

                          #13
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                          I think it's ridiculous. How does someone get paid that much to throw the ball that bad?

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                          • Mace
                            Haha...yeah you think so ?
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 20315

                            #14
                            Re: EJ Manuel's Accuracy

                            Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                            Before this past game, EJ had actually done pretty well in terms of not throwing INT's. Howevwr, he does tend to lead guys into hits and stop guys in their tracks, which is frustrating cuz Fitz had the same problem.
                            Thing with Fitz though, his arm couldn't get the ball where his eyes and head meant it to go when he finally achieved starter. You'd notice him trying to put more into firing the ball to compensate ineffectively. Manuel has more arm strength, but not the head. Doesn't know what he's seeing, throws trentatively.

                            Manuel looks awful. But it's just fact they trotted him out on a short preseason drumming lack of mistakes and speed into his head, he went down, came back and they're drumming patience and ballsy into him. It will either ruin him or make him. Atm, just seems like it confused him. But he was a raw project QB.

                            Suppose I'd think they should have aimed for a consistent approach not reacting to how the season went, because the show is supposed to really start next year, but were pulled into their own illusion of being good enough. They weren't good enough, or Manuel would be the weak link. Against Tampa the whole team stunk. Big diff between being "a" weak link or "The" weak link.

                            This team is really just not good enough, or well coached enough to brand Manuel an utter failure yet, though I'm as tempted to as anyone else at this point.

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                            • Fletch
                              Registered User
                              • May 2007
                              • 3166

                              #15
                              Re: EJ Manuel's Accuracy

                              Originally posted by k-oneputt View Post
                              The guy did this his whole career at Fla. St. This is nothing new.
                              He did, and if the team had bothered to do their homework they would have easily seen that.

                              But he was their guy.

                              You cannot argue with incompetence and idiocy.
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                              The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                              You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                              Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                              The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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                              "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                              "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                              "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                              Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                              "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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