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Meathead
03-27-2014, 08:33 AM
Refs will penalize players who dunk over the goal post

NFL head of officiating Dean Blandino told the Dan Patrick Show that starting this season, dunks will be a penalty. Tthe NFL has a rule against using the ball as a prop, and apparently that’s the rule that will be used to ban dunks. So it’s not a new rule, it’s a new interpretation of an existing rule.

The goal post dunk became a concern when Saints tight end (or wide receiver) Jimmy Graham knocked the goal post askew while dunking in Atlanta. The NFL is also considering making the uprights longer, which would make them more top-heavy and therefore potentially more likely to fall over entirely.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/25/refs-will-penalize-players-who-dunk-over-the-goal-post/

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Meathead
03-27-2014, 08:36 AM
btw i dont think i ever saw how they fixed those goalposts during the game

trapezeus
03-27-2014, 04:26 PM
i guess if its a safety hazard after new ones are installed, fine. but still, some of the celebrations are entertaining. and god forbid we be entertained. let's watch a 15 minute review on the definition of catching a ball (which now none of us really understand though we got it when we were 6). That's fun stuff. that's great for the game.

Generalissimus Gibby
03-27-2014, 04:28 PM
Well, I guess more people will be forced to follow Levy's maxim of "act like you've been there before." Of course, I am happy they waited to do this until after Gonzo retired.

Fixxxer
03-27-2014, 04:34 PM
What's wrong with a jump shot?

YardRat
03-27-2014, 04:46 PM
TO's Sharpie incident...best celebration ever.

IlluminatusUIUC
03-27-2014, 05:13 PM
I absolutely don't mind TD celebrations, but the dunk can damage the goalposts and delay the game.

Night Train
03-28-2014, 04:14 AM
Just score and quit the Broadway productions in the end zone.

Meathead
03-28-2014, 04:46 AM
personally i like ez celebrations and wish they were allowed but a te who isnt even as good as eric ebron broke the dang goalposts dunking on them so really they have no choice but to penalize that practice

gebobs
03-28-2014, 05:56 AM
i guess if its a safety hazard after new ones are installed, fine. but still, some of the celebrations are entertaining. and god forbid we be entertained. let's watch a 15 minute review on the definition of catching a ball (which now none of us really understand though we got it when we were 6). That's fun stuff. that's great for the game.
There's a difference between entertainment and spectacle. The NFL has been devolving into spectacle for decades.

gebobs
03-28-2014, 05:58 AM
Well, I guess more people will be forced to follow Levy's maxim of "act like you've been there before." Of course, I am happy they waited to do this until after Gonzo retired.

Actually that quote has been attributed to many before him. Bear Bryant for one. And the Hip immortalize it in this song which is actually about Dan Snyder, the guy that died in Dany Heatley's car.

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elltrain22
03-28-2014, 06:53 AM
NFL = No Fun League

OpIv37
03-28-2014, 07:57 AM
I absolutely don't mind TD celebrations, but the dunk can damage the goalposts and delay the game.

How many times has that actually happened though?

I'm getting so tired of this mentality that every time something slightly bad happens, someone needs to create some new rule or law to make sure it never happens again. And it's not just football- it's pervasive in society.

TedMock
03-28-2014, 08:55 AM
I think a lot of people used "act like you've been there before," but Marv really loved that one. Still, as much as I love Marv, it was a bit overstated. Emotion and celebration should be part of the game. Not going overboard, but don't get out of control with it. Marv's offensive teams didn't do a lot of celebrating - spiking the ball was common, but not a ton beyond that. Of course, his defenses were loaded with celebration. Cabbage patch, Fred Sanford, group fall-downs, etc. It was constant and none of the coaches ever appeared to be upset by it. It goes both ways. I have no problem with a little celebration. Sport and competition is emotional. You reign those emotions in for long periods to perform. When you reach a particular goal, by god, celebrate a little.

IlluminatusUIUC
03-28-2014, 09:38 AM
How many times has that actually happened though?

It happend just this year.

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/grahamup.gif

It caused a significant delay because they had to straighten the posts.


I'm getting so tired of this mentality that every time something slightly bad happens, someone needs to create some new rule or law to make sure it never happens again. And it's not just football- it's pervasive in society.

They should bring back other TD celebrations that don't have a chance of damaging the equipment.

sukie
03-28-2014, 10:11 AM
It happend just this year.

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/grahamup.gif

It caused a significant delay because they had to straighten the posts.



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Doesn't that stink of bad goal posts? Hockey players get checked through the glass or a basketball backboard shattering. Not the players fault but a flimsy goal post can't handle a player hanging from it for a second?

I'm not advocating the hanging onto goalposts but tossing it over the goalpost in a dunk fashion is really no big deal. Didn't Gonzo do that all the time?

Wouldn't the violet spiking of a ball also be using equipment as a prop?

OpIv37
03-28-2014, 11:05 AM
Guys do the dunk all the time- it caused ONE delay.

stuckincincy
03-28-2014, 11:39 AM
How many times has that actually happened though?

I'm getting so tired of this mentality that every time something slightly bad happens, someone needs to create some new rule or law to make sure it never happens again. And it's not just football- it's pervasive in society.

Indeed. That's the Dem's and Liberals' and socialists' long-time stock-in-trade...public choice theory. Distilled, these days, to "If we can save the life of one child", etc. Heh - I'm glad I'm my age. You young folk in the future - because you don't smell the bad coffee brewing unlike your elders did - will probably have to obtain a permit for letting off a climate-destroying fart. :earpoke:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_choice

IlluminatusUIUC
03-28-2014, 11:41 AM
Guys do the dunk all the time- it caused ONE delay.

How many game delays do you consider acceptable?


Doesn't that stink of bad goal posts? Hockey players get checked through the glass or a basketball backboard shattering. Not the players fault but a flimsy goal post can't handle a player hanging from it for a second?

I'm not advocating the hanging onto goalposts but tossing it over the goalpost in a dunk fashion is really no big deal. Didn't Gonzo do that all the time?

Wouldn't the violet spiking of a ball also be using equipment as a prop?

The goalposts are intentionally light so they are easy to install and remove. There is no reason to make them heavier and sturdier to support the weight of a 260lb man.

gebobs
03-28-2014, 01:00 PM
Guys do the dunk all the time- it caused ONE delay.
Here's a solution and there won't be any delays...

Off to the side, set up a playground with a jungle gym, swing set, and a slide. Make it really sturdy to support a large grown man. Physically grown that is. After they score a touchdown, they get to run over there and play on it through the commercial break.

OpIv37
03-28-2014, 01:01 PM
Here's a solution and there won't be any delays...

Off to the side, set up a playground with a jungle gym, swing set, and a slide. Make it really sturdy to support a large grown man. Physically grown that is. After they score a touchdown, they get to run over there and play on it through the commercial break.
Stevie will be the first one to run UP the slide to prove how much of a fun-loving free thinker he is.

Victor7
03-28-2014, 01:52 PM
Graham went overboard with his "dunk" and screwed up the goal posts. All the others (and there were many) were fine. This is just Goodell being his usual meddlesome self trying to do too much.

sukie
03-28-2014, 01:53 PM
From a guy that can jump OVER the goal post... Well said Victor.