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Re: Cuomo on stadium statement by Goodell
Interesting quote from Poloncarz there:
As evidence of this commitment, consultants have been retained on behalf of the state and county to prepare options for the consideration of prospective owners that will include (1) a new stadium to be constructed at one or more possible locations and (2) the further renovation or retrofit of Ralph Wilson Stadium beyond the renovations currently being undertaken.
If they go that route, there's a chance that the Bills would have to play elsewhere for a season, while the retrofit is taking place, as the Bears did... The Carrier Dome would be an interesting venue for a season, especially if they wanna play the "Regionalization" card...
-Bill
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Re: Cuomo on stadium statement by Goodell
Originally posted by BLeonard View PostInteresting quote from Poloncarz there:
Interesting that a retrofit would be on the table (but, really, all options should be at this point)... Just wondering, with RWS being built partially underground (I'm right on that, right?) how different a retrofit project would be, compared to above ground stadiums that have had it in recent years (Soldier Field, Lambeau Field, Arrowhead Stadium).
If they go that route, there's a chance that the Bills would have to play elsewhere for a season, while the retrofit is taking place, as the Bears did... The Carrier Dome would be an interesting venue for a season, especially if they wanna play the "Regionalization" card...
-Bill
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Re: Cuomo on stadium statement by Goodell
Originally posted by BLeonard View PostInteresting quote from Poloncarz there:
Interesting that a retrofit would be on the table (but, really, all options should be at this point)... Just wondering, with RWS being built partially underground (I'm right on that, right?) how different a retrofit project would be, compared to above ground stadiums that have had it in recent years (Soldier Field, Lambeau Field, Arrowhead Stadium).
If they go that route, there's a chance that the Bills would have to play elsewhere for a season, while the retrofit is taking place, as the Bears did... The Carrier Dome would be an interesting venue for a season, especially if they wanna play the "Regionalization" card...
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Originally posted by YardRat View PostI obviously don't know any details regarding the structural state of the main bowl (field and lower level), but I would imagine it wouldn't be that difficult to raze what is currently above ground and build from there up, resulting in basically a 'new' stadium. The determining factor would of course be (as it is in any construction project) the overall cost of a massive re-build vs just starting from scratch. Many times it's cheaper to just go new from the start.
I'm wondering what the chances are of an option C: Building a new stadium on the current site, like the Vikings are doing.
I would think it would be, as it's entirely possible that one of the "locations" could be the current site... Might make sense financially, as the Fieldhouse and outdoor practice field are right there as well.
Of course, again, that probably means the Bills have to play a year or two in the Carrier Dome or something, but I could see things working out that way.
-Bill
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Originally posted by The Jokeman View PostIdeally the Bills should put the stadium downtown and/or on the waterfront as to me I think coupled with the Sabres work downtown it could really start making downtown a great place to go again. The only problem with that is you'd lose out on the tailgating that the current stadium provides. Damned if we do damned if we don't.
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but stadiums are locked when they're not in use.http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3
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Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm(Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
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Originally posted by BLeonard View PostYeah, I don't really see why it would be much of a difference, just more of a curiosity of mine. Obviously, early signs are it can be done, or it likely would have been ruled out as an option already.
I'm wondering what the chances are of an option C: Building a new stadium on the current site, like the Vikings are doing.
I would think it would be, as it's entirely possible that one of the "locations" could be the current site... Might make sense financially, as the Fieldhouse and outdoor practice field are right there as well.
Of course, again, that probably means the Bills have to play a year or two in the Carrier Dome or something, but I could see things working out that way.
-Bill
The WNY politicians are going to be taking enormous heat if they burden taxpayers more for it. Downstaters are going to be heavy-handed on state politicians if they do it. Obviously the emotional element of people in WNY favors it, but not so in downstate.
I suspect that if it gets done, we can look at another 1 or 2% hike in the sales tax in both NYS and Erie County, or whichever county has the stadium.http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3
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Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm(Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
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Originally posted by Fletch View PostSo you're going to go downtown just to look at the stadium 357 days a year?
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but stadiums are locked when they're not in use.Last edited by The Jokeman; 05-08-2014, 12:12 PM.
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Re: Cuomo on stadium statement by Goodell
Originally posted by BLeonard View PostInteresting that a retrofit would be on the table (but, really, all options should be at this point)... Just wondering, with RWS being built partially underground (I'm right on that, right?) how different a retrofit project would be, compared to above ground stadiums that have had it in recent years (Soldier Field, Lambeau Field, Arrowhead Stadium).
If they go that route, there's a chance that the Bills would have to play elsewhere for a season, while the retrofit is taking place, as the Bears did... The Carrier Dome would be an interesting venue for a season, especially if they wanna play the "Regionalization" card...
-Bill
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Originally posted by WagonCircler View PostThey could do it Yankee Stadium style. Build it across the street. The Cincinnati Reds did that, so did the St Louis Cardinals.Last edited by DetDannyWilliams; 05-08-2014, 05:53 PM.
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Re: Cuomo on stadium statement by Goodell
One overlooked question in this whole new stadium business is how it affects the Bills' finances. If a new stadium or massive retrofit goes through, sure, some portion will be publicly funded, and there will likely be some contribution from the NFL's stadium fund as well. But the Bills will also be responsible for a large chunk. To give a ballpark idea, the Vikings are responsible for ~$477 million of the budgeted $975 million for their new stadium.
If I recall, we had an operating profit of like $13 million last year. Saddle us with $477 million of stadium costs to pay off, and I'd have to imagine that would eat heavily into our currently small profit margin. Which of course means less money for things like, you know, players.
I'm no accountant, but just my two cents.Wake up, brush your teeth, and get ready for a day of hating the Dolphins. Or the Pats? How to choose?
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