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  • Ed
    Dude
    • Sep 2002
    • 9247
    #1

    "Super Group" could buy Bills and build stadium in Niagra

    This is one of the better articles I've read regarding the sale of the Bills. It's a long article, but has a lot of good/interesting info. It also makes a future move to Toronto seem difficult and unlikely.

    It focuses mainly on the Bon Jovi group buying the team, but keeping them in New York, which hasn't really been discussed as a possibility. The article make a lot of good points though about why that may be their only option if they want to be owners.

    This one part from the article I found particularly interesting regarding the Jacobs family:
    A Western New York source involved in the bid process said he still hears that the Jacobs family will not lead a bid for the Bills. Rather, it will sit back and be ready to potentially provide last-moment “over the top” money for a leading bid group that might require it — a group that would keep the team local, and a group the Jacobs family likes.
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    http://blogs.canoe.ca/krykslants/nfl/the-niagara-bills-super-group-partnering-bon-jovi-tanenbaum-jacobs-family-and-committed-to-new-stadium-in-niagara-falls-n-y-could-be-hard-to-beat-in-bi/


    I recommend reading the whole article.
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  • Turf
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 8379
    #2
    Re: "Super Group" could buy Bills and build stadium in Niagra

    Isn't that right behind the casino?
    Lou Saban: You can get it done, you can get it done. And what’s more, you’ve gotta get it done.

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    • MitchMurrayDowntown
      Skoobasaurus-Rex
      • Oct 2011
      • 22284
      #3
      Re: "Super Group" could buy Bills and build stadium in Niagra

      You mean a Toronto group buying the Bills & Building a new stadium in Niagara Falls keeping them in town, who could think of something like this ?
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      • don137
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 7720
        #4
        Re: "Super Group" could buy Bills and build stadium in Niagra

        I worry that is what they go in with their intent but in reality they will push expensive PSLs. When that happens it is realized Buffalo cannot support expensive PSLs thus giving them an out because they could not make a new stadium work thus moving the team to Toronto in 2020 or when lease expires.
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        • Homegrown
          Havin' a ball ... rollin' to the bottom
          • Jul 2008
          • 2774
          #5
          Re: "Super Group" could buy Bills and build stadium in Niagra

          I'd prefer the Super Friends
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          • ParanoidAndroid
            My battery is low and it's getting dark.
            • Apr 2004
            • 16862
            #6
            Re: "Super Group" could buy Bills and build stadium in Niagra

            Yeah. What if? Pure speculation and a terrible idea to boot.
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            • Swiper
              Legendary Zoner
              • Sep 2010
              • 33105
              #7
              Re: "Super Group" could buy Bills and build stadium in Niagra

              The highway infrastructure in Niagara County couldn't support the traffic.
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              • MitchMurrayDowntown
                Skoobasaurus-Rex
                • Oct 2011
                • 22284
                #8
                Re: "Super Group" could buy Bills and build stadium in Niagra

                Originally posted by ParanoidAndroid View Post
                Yeah. What if? Pure speculation and a terrible idea to boot.
                How's it a terrible idea ?? Having very wealthy people that make a huge investment to keep the Bills in the area is a bad idea ? What exactly would you like to happen ?

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                • Turf
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 8379
                  #9
                  Re: "Super Group" could buy Bills and build stadium in Niagra

                  If this is where I think it is, lets imagine the screen shots from the blimp. The Stadium, ahh so nice. The Casino next door, the beautiful falls with the lights on it. What the hell are they going to do with the stretch of god forsaken chemical plants that line that stretch of road? Not to mention, how tf are you going to get there? Grand Island Bridge? Seriously? River Rd Tonawanda? Going to the casino in the afternoon the bridge is backed up forever. Not to mention about to fall over.
                  I don't see it working. Build it off the freaking Thruway for god sakes and add a lane. Its the only thing that makes sense.
                  Lou Saban: You can get it done, you can get it done. And what’s more, you’ve gotta get it done.

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                  • Fletch
                    Registered User
                    • May 2007
                    • 3166
                    #10
                    Re: "Super Group" could buy Bills and build stadium in Niagra

                    Originally posted by Ed View Post
                    I recommend reading the whole article.
                    Read the whole thing.

                    To start, he says ...

                    We’ve established the unlikelihood of the NFL approving a Toronto bid group to buy the Buffalo Bills. At least a Toronto bid group intent on relocating the franchise to Toronto at first chance early next decade.

                    I don't know who that "we" is, but I don't recall having read anything like that.

                    If Bon Jovi and Tanenbaum stick to their original relocation guns and do not publicly, and convincingly, declare a long-term intention to keep the Bills in Western New York, then their bid is likely doomed.

                    A new owner wouldn't have to say anything, or could easily feign trying to keep the team in NY, then move it "because the region just can't sustain the team" anyway.

                    This guy talks as if the Toronto series is going thru 2017. Sounds as if it's already on the rocks if it won't have been killed after this season. It's struggled immensely as we all know.

                    I'm wondering what this guy is smoking since he implicitly equates the CFL with the NFL. Canada is a hockey country, but still, the NFL should draw much better than the CFL does simply given the increase in the talent level of its players if for no other reason.

                    Who knows, maybe the Cannucks would come to more games if it were in NF, but I wouldn't bet on it given the massive failure of the Toronto Series. If they can't make it to downtown Toronto, ...

                    He does make a good point on the hotels in NF.

                    One thing not mentioned is drunks, scalpers, etc. all loitering around Niagara Falls on game days on Sundays in the fall, some of the nicest times to go visit the Falls. I'm not sure that I share the feasibility of this all. IMO the Falls should be the Falls, not a sports venue. It's a special place, a natural wonder. I'd have no problem putting the stadium a mile or two from the Falls, but that's too close if you ask me. I'm sure I'm not alone. Forever there would be a huge stadium in the background skyline. Imagine a stadium in the Everglades or on the edge of the Grand Canyon.

                    Anyway, there's an awful lot of speculation in that piece and a lot of IF's. The biggest thing, which he even questions, is whether Canadians would really become that interested, which I'm skeptical of, there's no evidence of that.

                    I would add this, that if Canada is being seen as an international landing spot for the NFL, then Toronto's the city and the Bills are likely the team. Even if it's another, putting the Bills in NF would put a permanent end to having a team in Toronto. Either there wouldn't be the fanbase because the population base doesn't expand in the US, it shrinks given that the team moves away from the more remote areas of NYS, so unless they'd make that up with Canadians, it won't happen. If it did happen then they wouldn't then put a team in Toronto soon after that.
                    Last edited by Fletch; 06-02-2014, 08:28 PM.
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                    Post #46

                    Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                    (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                    Originally Posted by pmoon6
                    The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                    You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                    Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                    The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                    ------

                    "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                    "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                    "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                    Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                    "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                    • Fletch
                      Registered User
                      • May 2007
                      • 3166
                      #11
                      Re: "Super Group" could buy Bills and build stadium in Niagra

                      Originally posted by don137 View Post
                      I worry that is what they go in with their intent but in reality they will push expensive PSLs. When that happens it is realized Buffalo cannot support expensive PSLs thus giving them an out because they could not make a new stadium work thus moving the team to Toronto in 2020 or when lease expires.
                      Yeah, there are a lot of problems that spring up when thinking about this. I file it under "it looks good on paper, but ..."

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                      Originally posted by Swiper View Post
                      The highway infrastructure in Niagara County couldn't support the traffic.
                      Completely agree with that, it's all wedged up into the corner of the state. He doesn't really mention that, only the Canadian side.
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                      Post #46

                      Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                      (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                      Originally Posted by pmoon6
                      The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                      You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                      Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                      The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                      ------

                      "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                      "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                      "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                      Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                      "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                      • Fletch
                        Registered User
                        • May 2007
                        • 3166
                        #12
                        Re: "Super Group" could buy Bills and build stadium in Niagra

                        Originally posted by Turf View Post
                        Build it off the freaking Thruway for god sakes and add a lane. Its the only thing that makes sense.
                        Agreed
                        http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

                        Post #46

                        Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                        (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                        Originally Posted by pmoon6
                        The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                        You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                        Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                        The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                        ------

                        "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                        "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                        "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                        Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                        "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                        • YardRat
                          Well, lookie here...
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 86291
                          #13
                          Re: "Super Group" could buy Bills and build stadium in Niagra

                          Have details regarding relocating the team if the Bon Jovi group buys it actually been revealed, or has it all been speculation because of the Tannenbaum connection?
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                          • ParanoidAndroid
                            My battery is low and it's getting dark.
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 16862
                            #14
                            Re: "Super Group" could buy Bills and build stadium in Niagra

                            Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                            How's it a terrible idea ?? Having very wealthy people that make a huge investment to keep the Bills in the area is a bad idea ? What exactly would you like to happen ?
                            Oh brother. Weak ass spin. That's not the problem with the idea. The problem is that he is just making s*** up and never reconciles the fact that Tannenbaum and Bon Jovi are interested in a Toronto franchise.
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                            • MitchMurrayDowntown
                              Skoobasaurus-Rex
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 22284
                              #15
                              Re: "Super Group" could buy Bills and build stadium in Niagra

                              Originally posted by ParanoidAndroid View Post
                              Oh brother. Weak ass spin. That's not the problem with the idea. The problem is that he is just making s*** up and never reconciles the fact that Tannenbaum and Bon Jovi are interested in a Toronto franchise.
                              If they commit ~$800 Million to building a stadium in Niagara Falls, they're going nowhere for a very long time.

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