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On paper we look more like a 13-3 team than a 3-13:
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Re: USA Today - Buffalo Bills project to a 3-13 record
Wow, even I have them at a stellar 5-11.
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Say what? According to who?Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
Everyone thinks that a rookie WR is going to come in here and do what he did in college last season, it ain't happenin'. Even Watkins were to do that it wouldn't make us a winning team.
The other thing seems to be that getting better WRs will automatically make Manuel better. That's the same logic that this team used when it rationalized that if they paid Fitzpatrick like a top QB that he'd play like one.
This team is not much different than last seasons. We've lost Stevie, and if Watkins makes up for Stevie's numbers this year as a rookie I'll be stunned. At least Manuel had a little chemistry with Stevie.
Manuel broke 3,000 yards once in college and his top WR had only 741 yards and 6 TDs. Greene is similar to Watkins in some ways, but he is more the downfield type and not gimmicky like Watkins was. So if Manuel couldn't do more with that, how is he going to benefit with Watkins in a similar role, particularly when Watkins isn't supposed to be as good a route runner as Greene is?
3-13 may be a bit light, but I don't see us being better than the 6-10 we were last season. People need to quit listening to Whaley and the rest of the team's FO people, they don't know what they're talking about. If you ask me, Whaley just Manuel'd and Watkins'd himself out of a job in Buffalo.
I'll say 5-11. I don't see Manuel hitting 3,000 yards this season and if he does it'll be just barely. I also don't see him throwing more than 16-18 TDs, hardly electrifying, and if that's all he does, there's no chance on earth that this team ends up better than 6-10.
Sure, I could be wrong, Manuel may do better than Brady last season and throw for 4,500 yards, 28 TDs, having 500 rushing yards, and Watkins could light up the NFL and do what Boldin did as a rookie, hit almost 1,400 yards. The odds of that happening are slim to nil though.http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3
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------Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm(Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
Originally Posted by pmoon6 
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
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Re: USA Today - Buffalo Bills project to a 3-13 record
I have us at 5-11 one day, 6-10, another.
Those guys are dicks!
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i'm currently in the 5-11 crowd until we see preseason games to see where they are. 3-13 is harsh. but given the lack of discipline the players have, the mushy marrone quote, and the fact we gave up a first rounder, it seems like all signs are pointing to a tough season.Comment
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How does giving up a number one pick NEXT year equate to a tough season this year?Originally posted by trapezeus View PostComment
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If Watkins doesn't easily replace what Stevie did, then I can easily see 3-13. I agree on the 5-11, but if I had to make a second guess it'd be 4-12, not 6-10 again. Despite everyone thinking that this team has improved, it hasn't. The whole enchilada is going to hing on Manuel.Originally posted by trapezeus View Posthttp://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3
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------Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm(Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post. Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
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Bills Suck.....Comment
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I can't predict a good team until I see it on Sunday but I feel like the talent level on the team is much higher than 3-13.Comment
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7-9Comment
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8-12 wins depending on Manuel. Maybe even a Championship if it's 12.
Have any of you sub .500 swamis even looked at the schedule? We play the AFC's worst teams and the NFC's worst division.Comment
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I think Stevie's 597 yards & 3 TD's will be easily replaced by Mike Williams.Originally posted by Fletch View Post
I expect much better numbers than the numbers Stevie put up last year from Sammy Watkins.Comment
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What did Stevie do last year ??Originally posted by Fletch View PostComment
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No they didn't look, they just want to say 4 wins & 5 wins to lower their expectations. This is actually the first year that we might break out in a while.Originally posted by Albany,n.y. View PostComment
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5-11 to 7-9.
The AFC East is going to boil down to how good Tannehill, Geno Smith and Manuel play.Comment
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