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  • Fletch
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    • May 2007
    • 3166

    Potential Bills buyer thinks team may need a dome in Buffalo

    Haven't seen this posted yet.



    The Bills may remain in Western New York but move indoors.


    Billionaire Tom Golisano, a former owner of the NHL’s Buffalo Sabres, has confirmed that he is interested in buying the Bills from the estate of the late owner Ralph Wilson, and that he would keep the team in town. But Golisano indicated that a new stadium may need to be built.


    “My guess, and it’s strictly a guess, is the stadium will be covered,” he said, via the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle. “I don’t know if it’ll have a sliding roof or just a permanent roof, but my guess is it will be covered. And the state government, our governor and some of our U.S. senators are very much in favor of this happening.”


    Golisano has been linked to developer Scott Congel, who owns land about 10 miles from Ralph Wilson Stadium that could be the site of a new stadium. Such a deal is a long way off, but Golisano made clear that he hopes an arrangement for the Bills to stay in the Buffalo area can be worked out.


    “The important thing is someone buys [the team] and keeps it in western New York,” he said. “Do I feel it has to be me? No, I’m not possessed about owning the Buffalo Bills, just as I wasn’t possessed about owning the Buffalo Sabres. They were in danger of leaving, too. In fact they were a lot closer to leaving than the Bills are. I got involved then because I wanted to keep that entity in western New York, and I want to keep the Buffalo Bills in western New York.”


    Snow in Buffalo in December is a longtime NFL tradition, and it would be sad to see it go. But if the alternative is the Bills leaving the area entirely, Buffalo fans would embrace a dome.


    Personally, taking it out of the snow in the late fall would reduce the experience for me. It would obviously also diminish the homefield advantage. I guess if it means keeping the team ...
    Last edited by Fletch; 06-06-2014, 08:20 AM.
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    Post #46

    Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
    (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
    Originally Posted by pmoon6
    The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

    You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

    Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

    The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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    "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

    "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

    "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

    Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

    "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

  • BuffaloWingEater
    Registered User
    • Aug 2012
    • 496

    #2
    Re: Potential Bills buyer thinks team may need a dome in Buffalo

    Retractable dome downtown is the best case scenario

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    • Turf
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 8378

      #3
      Re: Potential Bills buyer thinks team may need a dome in Buffalo

      The open air stadium keeps upper clientele away especially late in the year. That's where the money is. As much as I love the Bills, if its 5 degrees out, I'm not going to the game. I've spent enough games freezing my ass off in those metal seats. A $50 ticket vs a $200 ticket doesn't matter to me, there's only 8 games. I want a good experience. I can still get drunk if I want, which I don't. A few beers is good for me. But I and other like me will spend the money. It will also increase season tickets and the price of season tickets.
      Its where the money is. People can still tailgate. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing proposition.
      Lou Saban: You can get it done, you can get it done. And what’s more, you’ve gotta get it done.

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      • trapezeus
        Legendary Zoner
        • Oct 2004
        • 19525

        #4
        Re: Potential Bills buyer thinks team may need a dome in Buffalo

        pretty solid comments by T Golly. the dome would be something to get used to, but would clearly make attending the late season games where we are out of it much more palatable.

        golly's bid seems to be contingent on his guy getting the stadium deal. so i doubt the downtown stadium would be possible. but who knows.

        the best part is that he says the state government is in support of helping.

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        • OpIv37
          Acid Douching Asswipe
          • Sep 2002
          • 101271

          #5
          Re: Potential Bills buyer thinks team may need a dome in Buffalo

          Originally posted by BuffaloWingEater View Post
          Retractable dome downtown is the best case scenario
          Retractable dome in Buffalo is useless. We will be lucky to have it open two games a year. If they are dead-set in a dome, save the money and the maintenance and make it fixed roof.
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          • DraftBoy
            Administrator
            • Jul 2002
            • 107437

            #6
            Re: Potential Bills buyer thinks team may need a dome in Buffalo

            I get the appeal of the retractable roof but why bother with the extra expense? As Op said it won't be open very often.
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            We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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            • Fletch
              Registered User
              • May 2007
              • 3166

              #7
              Re: Potential Bills buyer thinks team may need a dome in Buffalo

              Originally posted by Turf View Post
              People can still tailgate.
              Well, we hope so. Seems like the No Fun League keeps cracking down on tailgating. Some others have pointed out how in other stadiums, some major cities like D.C., tailgating isn't what it is in Buffalo currently.

              They took some of the fun out of it when they stopped letting people park where they want to. Probably to try to squeeze an extra 80 cars in a lot of thousands just to give a multi-millinaire owner a few hundred more dollars.
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              Post #46

              Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
              (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
              Originally Posted by pmoon6
              The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

              You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

              Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

              The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
              ------

              "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

              "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

              "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

              Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

              "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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              • Fletch
                Registered User
                • May 2007
                • 3166

                #8
                Re: Potential Bills buyer thinks team may need a dome in Buffalo

                Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                Retractable dome in Buffalo is useless. We will be lucky to have it open two games a year. If they are dead-set in a dome, save the money and the maintenance and make it fixed roof.
                They're not going to close it if it's drizzing and 50 out.

                I would think that it would be closed to keep snow out of the seats and if the weather clears up then reopened. Who knows. But as long as it's above 40 I'd expect it to be open. Maybe I'm way off. I can see it being closed for 2-3 games. Sept. and Oct. are great in Buffalo. Early November can be nice too. Heck, even December has its nice days.

                I have to think that the cost, both construction as well as maintenance, is much greater for a moveable dome. It may not be possible and may simply have to be a hard dome.
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                Post #46

                Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                Originally Posted by pmoon6
                The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                ------

                "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                • OpIv37
                  Acid Douching Asswipe
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 101271

                  #9
                  Re: Potential Bills buyer thinks team may need a dome in Buffalo

                  Originally posted by Fletch View Post
                  They're not going to close it if it's drizzing and 50 out.

                  I would think that it would be closed to keep snow out of the seats and if the weather clears up then reopened. Who knows. But as long as it's above 40 I'd expect it to be open. Maybe I'm way off. I can see it being closed for 2-3 games. Sept. and Oct. are great in Buffalo. Early November can be nice too. Heck, even December has its nice days.

                  I have to think that the cost, both construction as well as maintenance, is much greater for a moveable dome. It may not be possible and may simply have to be a hard dome.
                  Problem is, you're thinking like someone from Buffalo. If we get a dome, it's going to be league rules, not Buffalo rules. No way in hell it's open if there's any type of precipitation whatsoever, and no way it's open if it's 40 degrees out.
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                  • DraftBoy
                    Administrator
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 107437

                    #10
                    Re: Potential Bills buyer thinks team may need a dome in Buffalo

                    Originally posted by Fletch View Post
                    They're not going to close it if it's drizzing and 50 out.
                    I think they absolutely would close it for that. Why subject your team to the rain when you don't have to?
                    COMING SOON...
                    Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                    We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                    • THATHURMANATOR
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 69112

                      #11
                      Re: Potential Bills buyer thinks team may need a dome in Buffalo

                      Originally posted by BuffaloWingEater View Post
                      Retractable dome downtown is the best case scenario
                      Why would it need to be retractable? That is what I never get? Why waste the money? We would NEVER open it for a cold weather game.

                      Also those whining and complaining about a dome obviously haven't missed a home game in 14 years (such as myself) and haven't sat through double digit December games that were 33 degrees and raining while the team was already out of the playoff hunt. STFU ALREADY!!!!

                      Cold weather is ZERO advantage for the Bils. 90% of our own players are from warm weather locations.

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                      • Bill Cody
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 11902

                        #12
                        Re: Potential Bills buyer thinks team may need a dome in Buffalo

                        I hate domes but I understand the logic. Whatever it takes

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                        • THATHURMANATOR
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 69112

                          #13
                          Re: Potential Bills buyer thinks team may need a dome in Buffalo

                          Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                          I think they absolutely would close it for that. Why subject your team to the rain when you don't have to?
                          Without question!!!

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                          • trapezeus
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 19525

                            #14
                            Re: Potential Bills buyer thinks team may need a dome in Buffalo

                            aren't there specific rules the nfl has for when it closes? i don't think it's too onerous.

                            retracable keeps the allure of some nice weather for september.

                            i also think the difference in cost between the two is negligiblie. it's not like $1BN permanently closed and $2.5BN retractable. i would think it's a $200-300MM extra.

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                            • Novacane
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 42359

                              #15
                              Re: Potential Bills buyer thinks team may need a dome in Buffalo

                              I'd like a dome. I'd go to more late season games if we had a dome.

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