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  • Skooby
    Skoobasaurus-Rex
    • Oct 2011
    • 22284

    I've been told that Sammy Watkins is probably the best hybrid mix between WR & RB

    It's inevitable that WR's who can run after the catch will become more aggressive as time goes on, it's not really coming down to guys that can just cover the pass but take the punishment for trying to stop them. Larry Fitzgerald is a great player but he can be stopped on physical play after the ball gets in his hand, it's not he same with Sammy.


    A new dawn is coming for WR in the NFL, Hybrid RB's who have the gift of being a physical threat at all points after they catch the ball. We went after Sammy at every draft spot until we obtained him, many panning the price we paid with our next year's first pick. Anyone thinking different if he wasn't our target from the outset is dead wrong. Sammy is going to be the first of many that change the picture, no longer just a simple catch and tackle.


    Sammy sees the catch as the start of the play, not the finish and that's the oddest part currently in the NFL. Do you think the 190 lbs guys are just simply going to tackle him after the catch, it's not a simple reality. In reality, the open field of the secondary is a target of expansion past the running all the normal front 7 mass. There's no 300 + LBS guy out there that can easily wrap up a Hybrid power back, it's more like an engage and hold on scenario. Mind you the better secondary guys will gain position so after the catch they can force players outside but in a open field, it becomes mass versus power.


    Imagine if a guy like our OJ could catch the ball past the masses of the defense & then look upfield, it'd be matter of time before they'd break loose several times a game. I'd plan on this becoming more of a reality in the near future, Sammy is not going to fall at the first hand on him normally regardless of the situation. The Bills brass really looked ahead here & made the right play. It will generate much more offensive and our TOP should be improve dramatically, something that should of made our current defense even more potent. Imagine if we had just a few more minutes of offensive last season, I'd bet 8-8 would of been would of been obtainable even with our shaky QB back-up mix of starters. Add in more mass on the line this season & EJ staying healthy with Sammy catching the ball, it's a playoff formula.


    Go Bills.
  • BuffaloRedleg
    Registered User
    • Aug 2013
    • 1270

    #2
    Re: I've been told that Sammy Watkins is probably the best hybrid mix between WR & RB

    I was told that we might have to wait and see.

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    • Topas
      German smartass
      • Feb 2014
      • 880

      #3
      Re: I've been told that Sammy Watkins is probably the best hybrid mix between WR & RB

      Rofl, Redleg, thats was a great reply.
      That being said, I think it is an interesting point. A bit hyperbole, of course, but interesting...
      Although I think that it is easier for Offensive player to run over a guy that is heading at them than a player that runs parallel to them and simply wraps aup the legs. There is not a lot you can do as an Offensive player, as long as he evades your stiff arm and/or comes from behind.
      Let's see.

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      • YardRat
        Well, lookie here...
        • Dec 2004
        • 86329

        #4
        Re: I've been told that Sammy Watkins is probably the best hybrid mix between WR & RB

        The closer you get the ball to the line of scrimmage, the more chances you have of getting rolled by a 240-250lb LBer that hits like a truck.
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        • better days
          Registered User
          • Jan 2010
          • 22028

          #5
          Re: I've been told that Sammy Watkins is probably the best hybrid mix between WR & RB

          Originally posted by YardRat View Post
          The closer you get the ball to the line of scrimmage, the more chances you have of getting rolled by a 240-250lb LBer that hits like a truck.
          Well, I am glad we own the BIGGEST BADDEST truck.

          Brandon Spikes.

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          • Fletch
            Registered User
            • May 2007
            • 3166

            #6
            Re: I've been told that Sammy Watkins is probably the best hybrid mix between WR & RB

            Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
            It's inevitable that WR's who can run after the catch will become more aggressive as time goes on, ...
            Do you think that this has ever been tried before but simply failed because the NFL is a different league than college ball, especially for teams and players on those teams that are fortunate enough to consistently be playing talent that has no chance of ever playing in the NFL?


            Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
            A new dawn is coming for WR in the NFL, Hybrid RB's who have the gift of being a physical threat at all points after they catch the ball.
            Of course it is.

            I remember when we drafted Maybin too, the talk then was about how the DEs in the league were all trending smaller and faster.

            - - - Updated - - -

            Originally posted by YardRat View Post
            The closer you get the ball to the line of scrimmage, the more chances you have of getting rolled by a 240-250lb LBer that hits like a truck.
            And moves like a Ferrari.
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            Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
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            The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

            You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

            Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

            The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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            "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

            "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

            "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

            Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

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            • MitchMurrayDowntown
              Skoobasaurus-Rex
              • Oct 2011
              • 22284

              #7
              Re: I've been told that Sammy Watkins is probably the best hybrid mix between WR & RB

              Originally posted by BuffaloRedleg View Post
              I was told that we might have to wait and see.
              LOL, we drafted the weapon and we're going to deploy it. Enjoy the wait.

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              • EDS
                Registered User
                • Jan 2003
                • 5216

                #8
                Re: I've been told that Sammy Watkins is probably the best hybrid mix between WR & RB

                Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                It's inevitable that WR's who can run after the catch will become more aggressive as time goes on, it's not really coming down to guys that can just cover the pass but take the punishment for trying to stop them. Larry Fitzgerald is a great player but he can be stopped on physical play after the ball gets in his hand, it's not he same with Sammy.


                A new dawn is coming for WR in the NFL, Hybrid RB's who have the gift of being a physical threat at all points after they catch the ball. We went after Sammy at every draft spot until we obtained him, many panning the price we paid with our next year's first pick. Anyone thinking different if he wasn't our target from the outset is dead wrong. Sammy is going to be the first of many that change the picture, no longer just a simple catch and tackle.


                Sammy sees the catch as the start of the play, not the finish and that's the oddest part currently in the NFL. Do you think the 190 lbs guys are just simply going to tackle him after the catch, it's not a simple reality. In reality, the open field of the secondary is a target of expansion past the running all the normal front 7 mass. There's no 300 + LBS guy out there that can easily wrap up a Hybrid power back, it's more like an engage and hold on scenario. Mind you the better secondary guys will gain position so after the catch they can force players outside but in a open field, it becomes mass versus power.


                Imagine if a guy like our OJ could catch the ball past the masses of the defense & then look upfield, it'd be matter of time before they'd break loose several times a game. I'd plan on this becoming more of a reality in the near future, Sammy is not going to fall at the first hand on him normally regardless of the situation. The Bills brass really looked ahead here & made the right play. It will generate much more offensive and our TOP should be improve dramatically, something that should of made our current defense even more potent. Imagine if we had just a few more minutes of offensive last season, I'd bet 8-8 would of been would of been obtainable even with our shaky QB back-up mix of starters. Add in more mass on the line this season & EJ staying healthy with Sammy catching the ball, it's a playoff formula.


                Go Bills.
                Who told you he is the best mix between a wide receiver and a running back?

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                • MitchMurrayDowntown
                  Skoobasaurus-Rex
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 22284

                  #9
                  Re: I've been told that Sammy Watkins is probably the best hybrid mix between WR & RB

                  Originally posted by EDS View Post
                  Who told you he is the best mix between a wide receiver and a running back?
                  A football coach I know.

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                  • EDS
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 5216

                    #10
                    Re: I've been told that Sammy Watkins is probably the best hybrid mix between WR & RB

                    Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                    A football coach I know.
                    What was the basis for his statement? Was he saying Watkins is the best in NFL history, best on the Bills current roster, best rookie wide receiver with a last name that begins with W?

                    It is odd because there are lots of guys who are bigger, stronger, faster or have actual experience as former running backs.

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                    • mayotm
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 2333

                      #11
                      Re: I've been told that Sammy Watkins is probably the best hybrid mix between WR & RB

                      Originally posted by EDS View Post
                      Who told you he is the best mix between a wide receiver and a running back?
                      How dare you question one of Skooby's reliable sources.

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                      • MitchMurrayDowntown
                        Skoobasaurus-Rex
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 22284

                        #12
                        Re: I've been told that Sammy Watkins is probably the best hybrid mix between WR & RB

                        Originally posted by EDS View Post
                        What was the basis for his statement? Was he saying Watkins is the best in NFL history, best on the Bills current roster, best rookie wide receiver with a last name that begins with W?

                        It is odd because there are lots of guys who are bigger, stronger, faster or have actual experience as former running backs.
                        The basis is the Bills are taking a speed game approach on offense & Sammy brings superior speed & power to the equation, it's the best thing the Bills have done in decades. The Bills also would have moved up even more to get Sammy, that's how much they like his game.

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                        • JoeMama
                          Emotion Sickness
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 18222

                          #13
                          Re: I've been told that Sammy Watkins is probably the best hybrid mix between WR & RB

                          Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                          It's inevitable that WR's who can run after the catch will become more aggressive as time goes on, it's not really coming down to guys that can just cover the pass but take the punishment for trying to stop them. Larry Fitzgerald is a great player but he can be stopped on physical play after the ball gets in his hand, it's not he same with Sammy.


                          A new dawn is coming for WR in the NFL, Hybrid RB's who have the gift of being a physical threat at all points after they catch the ball. We went after Sammy at every draft spot until we obtained him, many panning the price we paid with our next year's first pick. Anyone thinking different if he wasn't our target from the outset is dead wrong. Sammy is going to be the first of many that change the picture, no longer just a simple catch and tackle.


                          Sammy sees the catch as the start of the play, not the finish and that's the oddest part currently in the NFL. Do you think the 190 lbs guys are just simply going to tackle him after the catch, it's not a simple reality. In reality, the open field of the secondary is a target of expansion past the running all the normal front 7 mass. There's no 300 + LBS guy out there that can easily wrap up a Hybrid power back, it's more like an engage and hold on scenario. Mind you the better secondary guys will gain position so after the catch they can force players outside but in a open field, it becomes mass versus power.


                          Imagine if a guy like our OJ could catch the ball past the masses of the defense & then look upfield, it'd be matter of time before they'd break loose several times a game. I'd plan on this becoming more of a reality in the near future, Sammy is not going to fall at the first hand on him normally regardless of the situation. The Bills brass really looked ahead here & made the right play. It will generate much more offensive and our TOP should be improve dramatically, something that should of made our current defense even more potent. Imagine if we had just a few more minutes of offensive last season, I'd bet 8-8 would of been would of been obtainable even with our shaky QB back-up mix of starters. Add in more mass on the line this season & EJ staying healthy with Sammy catching the ball, it's a playoff formula.


                          Go Bills.
                          You make him sound like a sucky tweener like Dexter McCluster when you call him an RB/WR hybrid.

                          I'm banking on he'll be a solid pro WR.
                          Disclaimer: The sentiment expressed in this post is strictly for entertainment purposes only.

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                          • Night Train
                            Retired - On Several Levels
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 33117

                            #14
                            Re: I've been told that Sammy Watkins is probably the best hybrid mix between WR & RB

                            Originally posted by BuffaloRedleg View Post
                            I was told that we might have to wait and see.
                            And a 7th round human doobie is our starting at LT, based on bloggers at an OTA.

                            Agreed..camp can't come soon enough. I'm all for having an actual eye test to go on.
                            Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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                            • EDS
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 5216

                              #15
                              Re: I've been told that Sammy Watkins is probably the best hybrid mix between WR & RB

                              Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                              The basis is the Bills are taking a speed game approach on offense & Sammy brings superior speed & power to the equation, it's the best thing the Bills have done in decades. The Bills also would have moved up even more to get Sammy, that's how much they like his game.
                              Does he have superior speed and power? He is fast and not undersized, but he is not Julio Jones or Calvin Johnson big, strong and fast. Nor does he have the background running the ball like a Percy Harvin.

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