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  • Fletch
    Registered User
    • May 2007
    • 3166
    #1

    A Fair Fantasy Assessment

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    http://www.scout.com/story/1417711-team-outlook-buffalo-bills?s=143
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    He goes through all of the offensive players, but he also sums up the DST as well as anyone could.

    DST Buffalo - BUST
    This unit was extremely good in two important categories last season -- interceptions and sacks. Specifically, they finished second in the league in both. However, there's no way a repeat performance should be expected. Safety Jarius Byrd is now in New Orleans. Cornerbacks Stephon Gilmore and Leodis McKelvin are on the mend following offseason hip surgery. Defensive coordinator Mike Pettine, who loved to dial up the pressure that led to those 57 sacks is now the head coach in Cleveland. Worst of all, the Bills lost the heart of their defense when linebacker Kiko Alonso suffered a torn ACL during a workout. As a rookie last year, he finished third in the league with 159 tackles and paced the Bills in tackles for loss and interceptions. He finished second in the Defensive Rookie of the Year voting, and now he's almost certainly done for the season. Playing the Jets and Dolphins twice per season may be good matchups, but the Bills don't have the personnel to exploit them as well as they did last season.

    I couldn't agree more. The only thing that I would add to that is that almost no other defensive metrics suggested that the D last season was any good, including passing TDs allowed in light of the number of sacks and INTs.
    http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

    Post #46

    Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
    (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
    Originally Posted by pmoon6
    The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

    You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

    Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

    The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
    ------

    "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

    "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

    "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

    Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

    "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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  • better days
    Registered User
    • Jan 2010
    • 22028
    #2
    Re: A Fair Fantasy Assessment

    Originally posted by Fletch View Post
    http://www.scout.com/story/1417711-t...lo-bills?s=143

    He goes through all of the offensive players, but he also sums up the DST as well as anyone could.

    DST Buffalo - BUST
    This unit was extremely good in two important categories last season -- interceptions and sacks. Specifically, they finished second in the league in both. However, there's no way a repeat performance should be expected. Safety Jarius Byrd is now in New Orleans. Cornerbacks Stephon Gilmore and Leodis McKelvin are on the mend following offseason hip surgery. Defensive coordinator Mike Pettine, who loved to dial up the pressure that led to those 57 sacks is now the head coach in Cleveland. Worst of all, the Bills lost the heart of their defense when linebacker Kiko Alonso suffered a torn ACL during a workout. As a rookie last year, he finished third in the league with 159 tackles and paced the Bills in tackles for loss and interceptions. He finished second in the Defensive Rookie of the Year voting, and now he's almost certainly done for the season. Playing the Jets and Dolphins twice per season may be good matchups, but the Bills don't have the personnel to exploit them as well as they did last season.

    I couldn't agree more. The only thing that I would add to that is that almost no other defensive metrics suggested that the D last season was any good, including passing TDs allowed in light of the number of sacks and INTs.
    "I couldn't agree more".

    What a surprise, you agree with something negative written about the Bills?

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    • Night Train
      Retired - On Several Levels
      • Jul 2005
      • 33117
      #3
      Re: A Fair Fantasy Assessment

      These "opinions" are based strictly on fanasy football scoring potential.

      I want my 60 seconds back.
      Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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      • OpIv37
        Acid Douching Asswipe
        • Sep 2002
        • 101313
        #4
        Re: A Fair Fantasy Assessment

        Originally posted by Night Train View Post
        These "opinions" are based strictly on fanasy football scoring potential.

        I want my 60 seconds back.
        It said "fantasy" in the thread title- what did you expect?
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        • Fletch
          Registered User
          • May 2007
          • 3166
          #5
          Re: A Fair Fantasy Assessment

          Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
          It said "fantasy" in the thread title- what did you expect?
          That kind of commentary is the norm here. Someone posts something and the result is a litany of tantrums manifested from statements of apathy to tirades of insults by people that don't like what was said or referenced. Note that no one commented on the actual contents of the piece. (I have no idea what better days said as he's on my filter)

          Silence here seems to be an admission of a lack of ability to rebut something.
          http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

          Post #46

          Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
          (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
          Originally Posted by pmoon6
          The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

          You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

          Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

          The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
          ------

          "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

          "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

          "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

          Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

          "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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          • Ginger Vitis
            Registered User
            • Feb 2009
            • 3451
            #6
            Re: A Fair Fantasy Assessment

            Originally posted by Fletch View Post
            (I have no idea what better days said as he's on my filter)
            You have a poster on ignore yet you give him acknowledgement by mentioning him frequently yeah that makes sense

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            • OLDSRIP
              Registered User
              • Dec 2008
              • 577
              #7
              Re: A Fair Fantasy Assessment

              In the end I only care about the total points allowed stat.

              all others are meaningless if you get out scored.
              • 👍 5

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              • better days
                Registered User
                • Jan 2010
                • 22028
                #8
                Re: A Fair Fantasy Assessment

                Originally posted by OLDSRIP View Post
                In the end I only care about the total points allowed stat.

                all others are meaningless if you get out scored.
                And Schwartz has said that is the one stat he cares about as well.

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                • Buffalogic
                  Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 5346
                  #9
                  Re: A Fair Fantasy Assessment

                  The sacks will be there. Turnover differential for every team is a seesaw year to year.

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                  • coastal
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 15514
                    #10
                    Re: A Fair Fantasy Assessment

                    I fully expect a step back defensively this year. Dareus is a disaster waiting to happen, Kyle Williams is another year older, Mario is Fool's Gold, Jarius Byrd is gone, our leading tackler is gone for the year and Pettine is gone.

                    how anyone can equate all of that to a status quo or step forward is beyond me.

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                    • Buffalogic
                      Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 5346
                      #11
                      Re: A Fair Fantasy Assessment

                      ^ There are surprises every year. You mentioned one of last year's in Kiko. Maybe we catch lightening in a bottle two years straight.

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                      • coastal
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 15514
                        #12
                        Re: A Fair Fantasy Assessment

                        Originally posted by Wagon Circler View Post
                        ^ There are surprises every year. You mentioned one of last year's in Kiko. Maybe we catch lightening in a bottle two years straight.
                        and maybe this is the year John McCargo arrives.

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                        • Fletch
                          Registered User
                          • May 2007
                          • 3166
                          #13
                          Re: A Fair Fantasy Assessment

                          Originally posted by Ginger Vitis View Post
                          You have a poster on ignore yet you give him acknowledgement by mentioning him frequently yeah that makes sense
                          Gosh, you seem just as bright as he appears to be.

                          I do have the ability to read his quotes by others. ... unfortunately. You're not far from that same filter. You're another that doesn't offer very much sensible.
                          http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

                          Post #46

                          Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                          (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                          Originally Posted by pmoon6
                          The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                          You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                          Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                          The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                          ------

                          "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                          "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                          "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                          Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                          "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                          • GOBILLSGO!!!
                            140.6
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 50
                            #14
                            Re: A Fair Fantasy Assessment

                            Originally posted by coastal View Post
                            and maybe this is the year John McCargo arrives.
                            He thinks he can still play in this league...just ask him!

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                            • Fletch
                              Registered User
                              • May 2007
                              • 3166
                              #15
                              Re: A Fair Fantasy Assessment

                              Originally posted by coastal View Post
                              I fully expect a step back defensively this year. Dareus is a disaster waiting to happen, Kyle Williams is another year older, Mario is Fool's Gold, Jarius Byrd is gone, our leading tackler is gone for the year and Pettine is gone.

                              how anyone can equate all of that to a status quo or step forward is beyond me.
                              Apparently you need to read most posts here.

                              Aaron Williams will supplant Byrd easily.

                              Mike Williams is set to step right in for Stevie and post 1,000 yards.

                              Manuel's going to explode.

                              Watkins is going to do what rookie WRs have only done in a single noted instance and propel this team into the playoffs.

                              Watkins is also going to put up numbers close to Megatron's, which even if he does would be 756 yards and 4 TDs in his rookie season, but somehow that's going to propel us into the playoffs.

                              Preston Brown is going to play like Kiko did.

                              Spikes is going to become a great pass-D LB.

                              Corey Graham is going to go from playing very inconsistently to becoming a top DB.

                              Spiller's finally going to make it through 16 games and become a 3-down RB.

                              Oh wait, I guess that Bryce Brown is going to do that and replace Jackson. Sorry.

                              I'm sure I missed a few. You should peruse threads here more often, it's very enlightening.

                              Last edited by Fletch; 07-07-2014, 06:21 PM.
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                              Post #46

                              Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                              (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                              Originally Posted by pmoon6
                              The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                              You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                              Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                              The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                              ------

                              "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                              "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                              "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                              Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                              "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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