Looks like QB Orton is getting axed
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Originally posted by stuckincincy View PostNice severance package..."The Cowboys' decision to release Orton means the quarterback will not have to pay back the $3.25 million in prorated signing bonus he received."...
The Dallas Cowboys have officially released Kyle Orton. Is Brandon Weeden ready to shoulder the load as the oft-injured Tony Romo's top backup?
Anybody feel that BUF has an interest in him?I came.
I saw.
I conquered.
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Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View PostHe is a vet presence that would be a better option than Tuel or Lewis, but to what end really?
Orton wised up and realized that if he was just meat, he'd sell his meat.Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.
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Re: Looks like QB Orton is getting axed
Originally posted by stuckincincy View PostNice severance package..."The Cowboys' decision to release Orton means the quarterback will not have to pay back the $3.25 million in prorated signing bonus he received."...
The Dallas Cowboys have officially released Kyle Orton. Is Brandon Weeden ready to shoulder the load as the oft-injured Tony Romo's top backup?
Anybody feel that BUF has an interest in him?http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3
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Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm(Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
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Re: Looks like QB Orton is getting axed
one thing i think that's important for any team is that the backup is capable of running the offense the starter has the keys to.
orton not being much like EJ (not a real threat to run the read option, etc), means that if (when) ej is hurt, the rest of the offense needs to learn a new system and gameplan to accomdate whatever orton's strengths are. IN a week, that's not usually fast enough. it creates more issues than it solves.
for better or worse, lewis can come in and do what ej does. and that continuity helps.
I came to this realization as we saw tebow struggle to land with teams. having him as a back up isn't a great option because so much has to change to fit his strength of being a running qb.
I just don't see orton as an nfl viable qb anymore and with the major differences from ej and lewis, it's not worth having him come in and keep us in the middle of the pack.
this is an all in bet the bills have made. they have to go for it without meaningless hedges at this point.
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Re: Looks like QB Orton is getting axed
Originally posted by stuckincincy View PostNice severance package..."The Cowboys' decision to release Orton means the quarterback will not have to pay back the $3.25 million in prorated signing bonus he received."...
The Dallas Cowboys have officially released Kyle Orton. Is Brandon Weeden ready to shoulder the load as the oft-injured Tony Romo's top backup?
Anybody feel that BUF has an interest in him?
Before the Cowboys signed him I thought he and Matt Moore were the two most unheralded, yet decent veteran back-ups around.
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Originally posted by trapezeus View Postone thing i think that's important for any team is that the backup is capable of running the offense the starter has the keys to.
We haven't had a good starting QB since Kelly. That's too dam long. It's exactly because people like Whaley don't have a clue.http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3
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Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm(Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
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Originally posted by Fletch View PostAt this point I'd be willing to take my chances with one qualified and competent starting QB and absolutely no backups at all, or backups that suck.
We haven't had a good starting QB since Kelly. That's too dam long. It's exactly because people like Whaley don't have a clue.
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Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View PostWe have UDFA & quite nobodies, why would Orton be a bad choice?
If Manuel can't do better than Orton I rest my case.
Besides, he'd be a backup. I don't understand what your question has to do with my statement unless you're suggesting that we sign Orton to start. Does the prospect of Orton starting do anything for you? Sounds like more of the same to me.http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3
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Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm(Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
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A vet back-up QB at this point is moot, especially someone like Orton, as trap has already pointed out.
I'm OK rolling with EJ and Lewis right now for this season.YardRat Wall of Fame
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Originally posted by Fletch View PostI have to laugh, everytime some mediocre QB gets released we're so bad that the discussion inevitably seriously turns to whether or not we should sign the guy.
Orton just wants to retire, he could have sat there, played a few games a few years and made millions for hanging out and keeping his bangs short enough to look out a helmet, breaking a sweat a few times a year on a team that just wants him to break a sweat a few times a year and keep his bangs short enough to look out a helmet.
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Originally posted by YardRat View PostA vet back-up QB at this point is moot, especially someone like Orton, as trap has already pointed out.
I'm OK rolling with EJ and Lewis right now for this season.
I think that Manuel's finished after this season. If we go any less than 6-10 then I think that Whaley's finished too, especially if we get a new owner by then regardless of who it is.http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3
Post #46
Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm(Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
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