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  • Fletch
    Registered User
    • May 2007
    • 3166

    Sammy Watkins gives Bills a mild scare

    “He shows that,” Marrone said regarding Watkins’ fearlessness. “He’s made a very good career for himself, in college, being able to go over the middle. That’s always a big test when you get to this level to make sure you can come over the middle. He’s a fearless player and, again, at the same time you have to be smart when you do that.”

    Sometimes I have to wonder what Whaley is smoking. It's good siht whatever it is.

    We've read a lot about Watkins, but what hit me about Whaley's quote is that I don't recall reading much of anything about how Watkins had superlatives in his play "over the middle," much less "made a good career for himself ... being able to go over the middle," rather most draft previews stated it as a weakness of his along with his defensive reads and route running.

    From nfl.com's review:

    Weaknesses

    Production results heavily from a gimmicky offense. Routes could use some more polish. Does not consistently work the middle of the field. Could improve field awareness.

    I guess it's easy to see Whaley's enthusiasm when it's based on non-existent things.
    http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

    Post #46

    Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
    (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
    Originally Posted by pmoon6
    The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

    You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

    Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

    The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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    "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

    "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

    "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

    Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

    "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

  • Fletch
    Registered User
    • May 2007
    • 3166

    #2
    Re: Sammy Watkins gives Bills a mild scare

    From everything we've read, Watkins made a name for himself on bubble screens, something that will not work nearly as effectively in the NFL.

    One place where he didn't make a name for himself, and for which I'm still awaiting the rationalization as to why not given his blazing speed and unprecedented moves, is in the return game where he was not good at Clemson.

    As they say, something's not adding up here. A player with those kinds of open field moves and such speed should have been able to do better than a pathetic 22.9 yards-per-return on KOs and 3.8 on PRs.
    http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

    Post #46

    Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
    (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
    Originally Posted by pmoon6
    The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

    You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

    Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

    The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
    ------

    "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

    "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

    "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

    Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

    "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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    • Ginger Vitis
      Registered User
      • Feb 2009
      • 3451

      #3
      Re: Sammy Watkins gives Bills a mild scare

      And in other news a well respected poster on this site who has attended 90% of the Bills training Camp practices in the last 10 years just claimed Watkins was by far the best player in practice today

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      • Night Train
        Retired - On Several Levels
        • Jul 2005
        • 33117

        #4
        Re: Sammy Watkins gives Bills a mild scare

        Drafting him was all part...of the conspiracy !
        Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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        • YardRat
          Well, lookie here...
          • Dec 2004
          • 86189

          #5
          Re: Sammy Watkins gives Bills a mild scare

          Haters will hate.
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          • TedMock
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 3221

            #6
            Re: Sammy Watkins gives Bills a mild scare

            Also from NFL.com

            "He displays exceptional body control getting in and out of breaks, and shows outstanding short area burst running away from defenders at the top of routes. Watkins capably runs all of the routes on the route tree, but he is at his best running vertical routes or shallow crossers that allow him to take advantage of his outstanding straight-line speed. Watching Watkins terrorize defenses throughout his career, he has routinely hurt opponents on deep balls and "catch and run" routes over the middle of the field."

            I'm not siding with either opinion right now. It's just interesting how two analysts with the same company have exact opposite opinions of the same guy.

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            • YardRat
              Well, lookie here...
              • Dec 2004
              • 86189

              #7
              Re: Sammy Watkins gives Bills a mild scare

              Where does the 'mild scare' part of the thread title fit in with the OP?
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              • trapezeus
                Legendary Zoner
                • Oct 2004
                • 19525

                #8
                Re: Sammy Watkins gives Bills a mild scare

                This thread wins a couple Mitchmurray points for having a thread title that doesn't match the body.

                watkins seems to be highly regarded by most analysts and coaches. the worries you have are so minimal and unlikely. we get that you like ripping on the bills, fletch.

                the real worry about watkins is that EJ doesn't develop and get him the ball in space and watkins is a 500 yard receiver with 3-6 TD. If EJ can develop chemistry and get him the ball on the move, i think we all believe watkins will live up to the hype.

                i also think the biggest risk to watkins is injury risk in training camp. if a bills fan isn't worried about it, then they haven't been bills fans for a very long time.

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                • coastal
                  Legendary Zoner
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 15513

                  #9
                  Re: Sammy Watkins gives Bills a mild scare

                  Fletch karma

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                  • imbondz
                    Democrats are people too
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 26041

                    #10
                    Re: Sammy Watkins gives Bills a mild scare

                    Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                    Where does the 'mild scare' part of the thread title fit in with the OP?
                    thats what I was going to ask. I thought he almost got injured or something.
                    My faith doesn’t make me perfect, it makes me forgiven.

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                    • ParanoidAndroid
                      My battery is low and it's getting dark.
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 16849

                      #11
                      Re: Sammy Watkins gives Bills a mild scare

                      He got poked in the eye and sat on the sideline for a bit.

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                      • CoolBreeze
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 1262

                        #12
                        Re: Sammy Watkins gives Bills a mild scare

                        Originally posted by trapezeus View Post
                        This thread wins a couple Mitchmurray points for having a thread title that doesn't match the body.

                        watkins seems to be highly regarded by most analysts and coaches. the worries you have are so minimal and unlikely. we get that you like ripping on the bills, fletch.

                        the real worry about watkins is that EJ doesn't develop and get him the ball in space and watkins is a 500 yard receiver with 3-6 TD. If EJ can develop chemistry and get him the ball on the move, i think we all believe watkins will live up to the hype.

                        i also think the biggest risk to watkins is injury risk in training camp. if a bills fan isn't worried about it, then they haven't been bills fans for a very long time.
                        I pray for Watkins health, Manuels as well.

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                        • feldspar
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 13620

                          #13
                          Re: Sammy Watkins gives Bills a mild scare

                          Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                          Where does the 'mild scare' part of the thread title fit in with the OP?
                          More delusion from our old pal Fletch.

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                          • Mr. Pink
                            Peterman Sucks!
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 35303

                            #14
                            Re: Sammy Watkins gives Bills a mild scare

                            It was said on GR that he landed awkwardly and took a few minutes to get up and walk off on his power.

                            But I see that had nothing to do with this thread and considering he got up on his own and then continued to participate it's nothing to worry about.

                            It would be a mild scare at the time though.

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                            • Dr. Who
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 719

                              #15
                              Re: Sammy Watkins gives Bills a mild scare

                              Sam Wyche on NFL Network said that Watkins reminds him of a 3rd year Roddy White. Must be some gimmick.

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