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  • Skooby
    Skoobasaurus-Rex
    • Oct 2011
    • 22284
    #1

    If we could trade CJ for a 1st pick next year, would it be worth it ?

    CJ's contract is expiring & if something easy was going to be done it would have already. So is getting a functional player now & a first round pick next year be worth it ? He's sorta been a mild bust for a top ten pick & I wouldn't call his production worth us not getting a new opportunity in the draft next year, so wouldn't it be like trading him for Sammy & our 4th round pick next year ?

    I love Spiller but not his production for the team & I think we could probably pick up another player for our O-line or a LB as well on a well from stocked team that's contending.
    Last edited by Skooby; 07-27-2014, 12:38 AM.
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  • IlluminatusUIUC
    Registered User
    • Sep 2012
    • 8966
    #2
    Re: If we could trade CJ for a 1st pick next year, would it be worth it ?

    YES


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    • MitchMurrayDowntown
      Skoobasaurus-Rex
      • Oct 2011
      • 22284
      #3
      Re: If we could trade CJ for a 1st pick next year, would it be worth it ?

      This is might add to the intrigue, where's there smoke....

      Jason La Canfora is reporting don't be surprised if CJ is traded in the next month.

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      • ICRockets
        Childish Fake Voter
        • Jul 2008
        • 12676
        #4
        Re: If we could trade CJ for a 1st pick next year, would it be worth it ?

        We wouldn't get a player AND a 1st round pick for CJ, but I'd take a 1st rounder, yes.

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        • jamze132
          Don’t hate…
          • Jun 2003
          • 29295
          #5
          Re: If we could trade CJ for a 1st pick next year, would it be worth it ?

          I doubt we'll get a 1st.

          But if so, maybe we could get our top 5 pick back?
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          • buftex
            Registered User
            • Jul 2006
            • 20
            #6
            Re: If we could trade CJ for a 1st pick next year, would it be worth it ?

            Sure, getting a first rounder is appealing (as unlikely as that is), but a part of me really wants to see how this offense functions with all the weapons they have in training camp. I would rather see Spiller extended than traded...but I realize, too, the move to pick up Bryce Brown was very likely made with some future roster maneuvers in mind.

            If Freddie and CJ are both free agents at the end of the season, it is hard to imagine the Bills re-signing both of them, with Brown and his modest contract. Depending on the kind of season Freddie has, you would imagine that he would want to re-sign with the Bills, and wouldn't likely command top dollar. CJ is another case. Say has a "pretty good" but not terrific season like he did in 2013... he would still likely make some major dollars in free agency. He is young, lightly used, and I have no doubt there are a dozen OC's in the NFL who think they could use him a lot more effectively than he has been used in Buffalo.

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            • GingerP
              Registered User
              • Aug 2012
              • 1717
              #7
              Re: If we could trade CJ for a 1st pick next year, would it be worth it ?

              The Eagles already looked into trading for him earlier this year before they got Darren Sproles, and the Bills showed no inclination to deal him. I don't even think it got to the point of an offer. I suppose the Bills have acquired Brown since then.

              I doubt they would get a 1st, considering the depressed RB market and how poorly the Trent Richardson trade went for Indy. I don't see backs as being as valued an asset. A guy like Spiller likely is looked at as best in a rotation, adding a big-play element to a team (but not a feature back).

              I just don't see it, I think the Bills hold onto him. I know they have some depth at RB, but given FJ's age and injury history I'd hold onto him. I guess if you could say he would return a 1st I'd do it, but that is a pipe dream.
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              • Fletch
                Registered User
                • May 2007
                • 3166
                #8
                Re: If we could trade CJ for a 1st pick next year, would it be worth it ?

                Some of you must think that Jackson's going to play for a few more years. I doubt that they even extend him after the season, I suspect that they might for one season simply to keep him around, but let's first see him make it through this season without an injury and playing even average football.

                He's the oldest RB in the league right now. He'll be 34 next season. The market for 34-year old RBs is almost nonexistent.

                As to CJ, if the team had planned on trading him it should be now. You can't trade a free agent. I suspect that they're waiting to see how he plays to see what kind of extension to offer him and to use that as leverage to get a good season out of him in Whaley's promised playoffs year.

                Otherwise, put yourself on some other team, you going to trade a 1st round pick for CJ?
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                Post #46

                Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                Originally Posted by pmoon6
                The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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                "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                • Mr. Miyagi
                  Lecter's Little Bitch

                  • Sep 2002
                  • 53616
                  #9
                  Re: If we could trade CJ for a 1st pick next year, would it be worth it ?

                  What GingerP said.

                  1. We're never getting a 1st rounder for him.
                  2. We're not interested in trading him.
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                  • Fletch
                    Registered User
                    • May 2007
                    • 3166
                    #10
                    Re: If we could trade CJ for a 1st pick next year, would it be worth it ?

                    Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi View Post
                    What GingerP said.

                    1. We're never getting a 1st rounder for him.
                    2. We're not interested in trading him.
                    Well yeah, to state the obvious. He's not worth a 2nd-rounder now either without a long-term contract.

                    Clearly the team isn't interested in trading him because of their promise to make the playoffs, as ridiculous as that is given the circumstances. Then again, they traded Stevie and if they were serious about this playoff challenge then that was one of the dumbest things that they could have done. Watkins as a rookie, even if KneeJ is on the field for 16 games and manages to play average football, is not going to lead this team into the playoffs.

                    Also, imo Jackson's downturn in play is going to be heavily felt this season.
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                    Post #46

                    Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                    (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                    Originally Posted by pmoon6
                    The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                    You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                    Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                    The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                    ------

                    "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                    "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                    "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                    Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                    "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                    • Jan Reimers
                      Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                      • May 2003
                      • 17353
                      #11
                      Re: If we could trade CJ for a 1st pick next year, would it be worth it ?

                      We can't keep trading away our key players for something shiny next year. Let's see what we can do this year with CJ, Sammy and the rest of our high powered RB and WR corps, and let next year take care of itself. CJ - when healthy - can be an offensive force who can turn games around all by himself.

                      With a better supporting cast on both offense and defense, CJ just might lead us to the Promised Land of playoff football.
                      Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
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                      • buftex
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 20
                        #12
                        Re: If we could trade CJ for a 1st pick next year, would it be worth it ?

                        Did Whaley really promise a playoff birth this season? Did I miss that?

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                        • sudzy
                          Registered User
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 2802
                          #13
                          Re: If we could trade CJ for a 1st pick next year, would it be worth it ?

                          What is this team best at. Turning former 1st round pick into future 4th round pick.
                          Last edited by sudzy; 07-27-2014, 06:30 AM.
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                          • OLDSRIP
                            Registered User
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 577
                            #14
                            Re: If we could trade CJ for a 1st pick next year, would it be worth it ?

                            I don't see getting a first round pick for CJ.

                            The op called him a mild bust. Would you trade a first round pick for a mild bust?

                            if he has a season like 2 years ago again this year. Then you could probably come close.

                            If he has a killer fist few games this year his value can go up for a in season trade.
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                            • stuckincincy
                              Buffalo Bills Fan
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 15084
                              #15
                              Re: If we could trade CJ for a 1st pick next year, would it be worth it ?

                              Originally posted by sudzy View Post
                              What is this team best at. Turning former 1st round pick into future 4th round pick.

                              Ouch!
                              Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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