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The Houston Texans have now released three of their first five picks in the 2013 NFL draft, with all three players getting cut before ever playing a down for the team.
The Houston Texans have now released three of their first five picks in the 2013 NFL draft, with all three players getting cut before ever playing a down for the team.
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Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
We've said that about so many players over the years though. I remember when everyone was talking about how good Trent Edwards looked in camp and how players respected him, etc. Last season in camp everyone talked about how unstoppably fast Goodwin looked on returns and used his one preseason return for a TD to conjecture several others during the season, the result was that he was below average on returns last season. I remember all the hype on TO, again, in camp. I'm optimistic and definitely think he'll be good, I just don't think that he'll be worth 2 1st-rounders. We'll see. I also don't agree with the way that Whaley's doing business.
There are many many examples. Look around you at the other camp reports on camps that started a week after ours, they're talking about their rookies in the same manner.
I hear talk about how Watkins is beating Gilmore half the time, well first of all, Gilmore's got some work to do to prove that he's a top CB, but he's hardly Revis, Sherman, Talib, or a bunch of other better CBs, so let's see how Watkins does against them in real-time. There's not another CB on our team that I think it matters if Watkins beats. Not one other CB has proven to be an above average starting CB over the years.
I'm not trying to discourage you, but looking good in camp is one thing, looking good in preseason is another, but looking good during the regular season quite another. Also, as many people have pointed out, the whole enchilada falls apart if Manuel doesn't play well, right. Well he's not looking good, ... in camp. He didn't look good last season, and he wasn't great at FSU for four seasons while all along exhibiting the same issues. Chances of that correcting itself in the remaining 10 training camp days and then another two weeks of regular practice before our season opener in Chicago? I'd say not so much.
By the way, look at this thread, it's from another forum, but I'm sure that the same things were occurring here.
(Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
To be fair, their 1st and 2nd round picks from 2013 are already starters and look to be pretty good players. They get nothing from the rest of the draft, but it wasn't a total washout.
still cant believe they bailed on schaub that easily. i think they are gonna be kicking themselves watching him go back to 90+ qb rating while fitzys throwing game losing interceptions
We've said that about so many players over the years though. I remember when everyone was talking about how good Trent Edwards looked in camp and how players respected him, etc. Last season in camp everyone talked about how unstoppably fast Goodwin looked on returns and used his one preseason return for a TD to conjecture several others during the season, the result was that he was below average on returns last season. I remember all the hype on TO, again, in camp. I'm optimistic and definitely think he'll be good, I just don't think that he'll be worth 2 1st-rounders. We'll see. I also don't agree with the way that Whaley's doing business.
There are many many examples. Look around you at the other camp reports on camps that started a week after ours, they're talking about their rookies in the same manner.
I hear talk about how Watkins is beating Gilmore half the time, well first of all, Gilmore's got some work to do to prove that he's a top CB, but he's hardly Revis, Sherman, Talib, or a bunch of other better CBs, so let's see how Watkins does against them in real-time. There's not another CB on our team that I think it matters if Watkins beats. Not one other CB has proven to be an above average starting CB over the years.
I'm not trying to discourage you, but looking good in camp is one thing, looking good in preseason is another, but looking good during the regular season quite another. Also, as many people have pointed out, the whole enchilada falls apart if Manuel doesn't play well, right. Well he's not looking good, ... in camp. He didn't look good last season, and he wasn't great at FSU for four seasons while all along exhibiting the same issues. Chances of that correcting itself in the remaining 10 training camp days and then another two weeks of regular practice before our season opener in Chicago? I'd say not so much.
By the way, look at this thread, it's from another forum, but I'm sure that the same things were occurring here.
I'm all about bashing s*** from time to time and understand the realists/pessimists point of view, but you literally have NOTHING to say unless it's negative. You make OP look like f***ing Skooby.
I'm all about bashing s*** from time to time and understand the realists/pessimists point of view, but you literally have NOTHING to say unless it's negative. You make OP look like f***ing Skooby.
I'm all about bashing s*** from time to time and understand the realists/pessimists point of view, but you literally have NOTHING to say unless it's negative. You make OP look like f***ing Skooby.
That's funny, from where some of us sit you don't have anything to say but siht like this.
You make drunk *******s look like civil people.
Talk about being maladjusted to civil discourse. Anything that doesn't get said the way that you like it is bashing. Meanwhile, you leap over the simplest points of discussion like Superman leaping over a tall building.
(Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
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