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  • Fletch
    Registered User
    • May 2007
    • 3166

    EJ Manuel has long way to go, and 5 observations from Bills-Giants in Hall of Fame Ga

    Canton, Ohio — EJ Manuel doesn't look ready. Yes, the Bills' 17-13 loss to the Giants on Sunday night was Manuel's first preseason game, and it was an early one at that. But Manuel didn't look much different than the...


    I completely agree on what he said about Henderson.

    As to Watkins he said this:

    Those who tuned in for the Sammy Watkins show on Sunday left disappointed. The rookie sensation who has dominated early in training camp was held without a catch despite being targeted three times. Giants cornerback Prince Amukamara frustrated Watkins with press coverage.
    I didn't notice, but if this is true, then it could make for an even longer season if Watkins doesn't get that sorted out. The expectations, while unreasonable, are still there for him.

    Everyone seems to think that he's a shoe-in to shake defenders easily, but against the best DBs he'll ever have faced, I'm not as confident. Amukamara is very good, but there are some better ones that he'll face too.
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    Post #46

    Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
    (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
    Originally Posted by pmoon6
    The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

    You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

    Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

    The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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    "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

    "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

    "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

    Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

    "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

  • BuffaloRedleg
    Registered User
    • Aug 2013
    • 1270

    #2
    Re: EJ Manuel has long way to go, and 5 observations from Bills-Giants in Hall of Fam

    The salavating over the opportunity to say i told you so about Watkins continues.

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    • better days
      Registered User
      • Jan 2010
      • 22028

      #3
      Re: EJ Manuel has long way to go, and 5 observations from Bills-Giants in Hall of Fam

      While targeted 3 times, two of the three balls EJ threw to Watkins were batted down at the line of scrimmage.

      I don't care how good a receiver is, it is tough to catch a ball that was batted down when you are down field.

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      • justasportsfan
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 71601

        #4
        Re: EJ Manuel has long way to go, and 5 observations from Bills-Giants in Hall of Fam

        Eh. It's Watkins' first taste of the NFL. 4 more preseason games to get ready. I actually think Woods could have a bigger impact than Watkins since EJ is more familiar with him.
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        • better days
          Registered User
          • Jan 2010
          • 22028

          #5
          Re: EJ Manuel has long way to go, and 5 observations from Bills-Giants in Hall of Fam

          Originally posted by justasportsfan View Post
          Eh. It's Watkins' first taste of the NFL. 4 more preseason games to get ready. I actually think Woods could have a bigger impact than Watkins since EJ is more familiar with him.
          I think every receiver on the team will produce if EJ can get the ball to them.

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          • Fletch
            Registered User
            • May 2007
            • 3166

            #6
            Re: EJ Manuel has long way to go, and 5 observations from Bills-Giants in Hall of Fam

            Originally posted by BuffaloRedleg View Post
            The salavating over the opportunity to say i told you so about Watkins continues.
            LOL

            OR, maybe the exact opposite, maybe more the realization that given everyone's statements assuring us all that Watkins was a fantastic pick, that many here will be eating crow and once again put their grand display of ignorance spread out on the table?

            Not that that very thing happens every season or anything.

            Which is it?

            I don't care one way or the other. I'm not the one insisting that everyone's wrong like everyone is when I say that the road to this greatness re: Manuel may not come as easily as everyone likes and they all argue the point with me.

            I love how you and others turn this around. I've never said that he'll suck. I've just warned and cautioned people not to set the bar too high, which when you think about it is the sane and reasonable approach. Then I'm labeled and slammed, called varying things, told that I hate the team, want them to move, etc.

            Why don't you and others just get a grip and realize that maybe some of the things that other caution about here maybe actually do have some veracity!

            Seriously, is that so difficult to do? If it is, perhaps some introspection as to why might be a good thing.
            Last edited by Fletch; 08-04-2014, 09:25 AM.
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            Post #46

            Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
            (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
            Originally Posted by pmoon6
            The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

            You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

            Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

            The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
            ------

            "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

            "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

            "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

            Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

            "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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            • Fletch
              Registered User
              • May 2007
              • 3166

              #7
              Re: EJ Manuel has long way to go, and 5 observations from Bills-Giants in Hall of Fam

              Originally posted by BuffaloRedleg View Post
              The salavating over the opportunity to say i told you so about Watkins continues.
              Do you think that that's why people like that author write these pieces, so that they can say "see I told you so?"

              There's a lot of emotional immaturity here and some borderline mental illness.
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              Post #46

              Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
              (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
              Originally Posted by pmoon6
              The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

              You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

              Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

              The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
              ------

              "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

              "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

              "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

              Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

              "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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              • YardRat
                Well, lookie here...
                • Dec 2004
                • 86278

                #8
                Re: EJ Manuel has long way to go, and 5 observations from Bills-Giants in Hall of Fam

                Kid's a student, hard-worker, and committed. If he did have trouble with press last night, he'll learn from it.
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                • Mr. Pink
                  Peterman Sucks!
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 35303

                  #9
                  Re: EJ Manuel has long way to go, and 5 observations from Bills-Giants in Hall of Fam

                  Originally posted by better days View Post
                  While targeted 3 times, two of the three balls EJ threw to Watkins were batted down at the line of scrimmage.

                  I don't care how good a receiver is, it is tough to catch a ball that was batted down when you are down field.
                  And the third he was overthrown by about 7 yards.

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                  • notacon
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 33071

                    #10
                    Re: EJ Manuel has long way to go, and 5 observations from Bills-Giants in Hall of Fam

                    Exhibition games are useless in determining what a team, or player is going to perform during the regular season.

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                    • kishoph
                      Registered User
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 3157

                      #11
                      Re: EJ Manuel has long way to go, and 5 observations from Bills-Giants in Hall of Fam

                      Originally posted by Fletch View Post
                      Do you think that that's why people like that author write these pieces, so that they can say "see I told you so?"

                      There's a lot of emotional immaturity here and some borderline mental illness.
                      Not only do I think that, but I also think that's why people like you post some of the stuff that you post.

                      Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
                      And the third he was overthrown by about 7 yards.
                      7 yards ? Not even 7 feet, but thank you for playing.

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                      • Night Train
                        Retired - On Several Levels
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 33117

                        #12
                        Re: EJ Manuel has long way to go, and 5 observations from Bills-Giants in Hall of Fam

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