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  • DesertFox24
    Registered User
    • Jul 2005
    • 2129
    #1

    Pegula

    I posed this question in the thread about Pegula selling assets for 1.75 billion, but thought it would get more attention in its own thread.

    I live in Nevada and am a NY Rangers fan, I route for the sabers to be good because I want Buffalo to get a championship and if the rangers cannot do it then I want the sabers to do it.

    That being said we all know Pegula will keep the team in Buffalo so win right there.

    How involved is he with the sabers, is he a Jerry Jones where he tells them what to do or is he more of a Rooney guy and lets the GM he hires run the football team and then hold that guy accountable for wins/losses/draft hits misses.

    Also what do saber fans think of Pegula as an owner. From what I have seen in the past people liked him at first because he was willing to spend money, although that does not seem to have helped them. Please understand I do not know the intricate details of the sabers and am not insulting anyone, I am asking because I am trying to gauge the guy.

    What I dont want is Golisano buying the team and being a cheap arse and then selling the team in 15 years for a huge profit.

    I think Pegula will keep the team and probably pass down to his kids if he has any.
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  • coastal
    Legendary Zoner
    • Mar 2005
    • 15513
    #2
    Re: Pegula

    He hung Pat Lafontaine out to dry and hires cronies to spy for him.

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    • Yasgur's Farm
      Moderator
      • Feb 2005
      • 7091
      #3
      Re: Pegula

      Sabres
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      • THATHURMANATOR
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 69112
        #4
        Re: Pegula

        He appears to sit back and let managment do there thing.

        I do agree the Lafontaine thing was weird though.

        Either way of course my only prefered option to buy the Bills.

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        • DesertFox24
          Registered User
          • Jul 2005
          • 2129
          #5
          Re: Pegula

          Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm View Post
          Sabres
          My bad, sorry for that I did not catch that.
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          • DesertFox24
            Registered User
            • Jul 2005
            • 2129
            #6
            Re: Pegula

            Originally posted by THATHURMANATOR View Post
            He appears to sit back and let managment do there thing.

            I do agree the Lafontaine thing was weird though.

            Either way of course my only prefered option to buy the Bills.

            Can I get a cliff notes on the Lafontaine deal and what Laftontaine did for teh sabres, sorry.

            Literally no sabres or really hockey news at here unless San Jose Sharks

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            • Dr. Lecter
              Zero for Zero!
              • Mar 2003
              • 67946
              #7
              Re: Pegula

              Or maybe LaFontaine did not get his way and threw a temper tantrum.

              Nobody seems to know what happened.

              Pegula has good intentions. I don't think spending money will be an issue for him, although spending NFL money is different than NHL money. He can be a bit of a fanboy and too devoted to emplyees.
              Originally posted by mysticsoto
              Lecter is right in everything he said.

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              • Fletch
                Registered User
                • May 2007
                • 3166
                #8
                Re: Pegula

                Originally posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
                Or maybe LaFontaine did not get his way and threw a temper tantrum.

                Nobody seems to know what happened.

                Pegula has good intentions. I don't think spending money will be an issue for him, although spending NFL money is different than NHL money. He can be a bit of a fanboy and too devoted to emplyees.
                Not being familiar with Sabres hockey or the Pat Lafontaine affair, did he leave the existing front office in place there?

                Is there any evidence that he would can the the biggest front office fixtures on the Bills?

                He clearly has enough money to pay for a decent head coach and GM.
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                Post #46

                Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                Originally Posted by pmoon6
                The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                ------

                "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                • OpIv37
                  Acid Douching Asswipe
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 101303
                  #9
                  Re: Pegula

                  When Pegula took over, he left GM Darcy Regier in place. Regier was trying to build a team around Roy, Pominville, Vanek and Miller, and the prevailing thought was that Regier knew what he was doing but was held back by Golisano's cheapness.

                  So, Pegula believed the hype. He opened the checkbook and let Darcy go to town. The results were dismal. He overpaid for Ville Leino and Christian Ehrhoff. The team sucked and now Darcy's gone along with coach Lindy Ruff and every single player I just mentioned. They were the worst team in the NHL last year and are rebuilding from scratch.

                  My biggest fear with Pegula as Bills owner is that he didn't learn and makes the same mistake by leaving Brandon and his lackeys in charge. Brandon only knows how to do things one way: Ralph's way. And we've seen the kind of results that gets.

                  If Pegula takes over, I want a scorched earth policy. Russ and every single one of his lackeys need to be gone.
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                  • Yasgur's Farm
                    Moderator
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 7091
                    #10
                    Re: Pegula

                    Sorry fox... Had to do it.
                    Originally posted by DesertFox24 View Post
                    My bad, sorry for that I did not catch that.

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                    • trapezeus
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 19525
                      #11
                      Re: Pegula

                      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                      When Pegula took over, he left GM Darcy Regier in place. Regier was trying to build a team around Roy, Pominville, Vanek and Miller, and the prevailing thought was that Regier knew what he was doing but was held back by Golisano's cheapness.

                      So, Pegula believed the hype. He opened the checkbook and let Darcy go to town. The results were dismal. He overpaid for Ville Leino and Christian Ehrhoff. The team sucked and now Darcy's gone along with coach Lindy Ruff and every single player I just mentioned. They were the worst team in the NHL last year and are rebuilding from scratch.

                      My biggest fear with Pegula as Bills owner is that he didn't learn and makes the same mistake by leaving Brandon and his lackeys in charge. Brandon only knows how to do things one way: Ralph's way. And we've seen the kind of results that gets.

                      If Pegula takes over, I want a scorched earth policy. Russ and every single one of his lackeys need to be gone.
                      agreed, but i wouldn't be upset if littman stayed. he seems to be a cap genius and every team should have someone who really gets it.
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                      • Ginger Vitis
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 3451
                        #12
                        Re: Pegula

                        Originally posted by trapezeus View Post
                        agreed, but i wouldn't be upset if littman stayed. he seems to be a cap genius and every team should have someone who really gets it.

                        It has been said Polian and Littman had troubles seeing eye to eye at the end of polians tenure in Buffalo.. Littman I think is easily disposable and thought Jim Overdorf was the cap guy and he is easily disposableas well

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                        • Fletch
                          Registered User
                          • May 2007
                          • 3166
                          #13
                          Re: Pegula

                          Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                          My biggest fear with Pegula as Bills owner is that he didn't learn and makes the same mistake by leaving Brandon and his lackeys in charge. Brandon only knows how to do things one way: Ralph's way. And we've seen the kind of results that gets.

                          If Pegula takes over, I want a scorched earth policy. Russ and every single one of his lackeys need to be gone.
                          Well, but here's the thing, he's got over a decade of history of Brandon and Wilson's other cronies leading us to record-setting performance futility. He would have no reason to buy into Brandon's, Whaley's, Littman's, Overdorf's, or Majeski's bullsiht. They've only proven themselves losers in administrating in such a way as to create a winning team.

                          During Regier's time as GM he had 12 winning seasons, been to the playoffs 8 or 9 times and even went to the Stanleys once.

                          Since and including the 2000 season the Bills have had only one winning season and haven't been to the playoffs at all.

                          I don't see how he can possibly be blind to the fact that it's been the aforementioned people that are the problem. Plus, he's a fan and hopefully realizes this.
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                          Post #46

                          Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                          (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                          Originally Posted by pmoon6
                          The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                          You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                          Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                          The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                          ------

                          "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                          "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                          "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                          Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                          "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                          • MitchMurrayDowntown
                            Skoobasaurus-Rex
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 22284
                            #14
                            Re: Pegula

                            Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                            When Pegula took over, he left GM Darcy Regier in place. Regier was trying to build a team around Roy, Pominville, Vanek and Miller, and the prevailing thought was that Regier knew what he was doing but was held back by Golisano's cheapness.

                            So, Pegula believed the hype. He opened the checkbook and let Darcy go to town. The results were dismal. He overpaid for Ville Leino and Christian Ehrhoff. The team sucked and now Darcy's gone along with coach Lindy Ruff and every single player I just mentioned. They were the worst team in the NHL last year and are rebuilding from scratch.

                            My biggest fear with Pegula as Bills owner is that he didn't learn and makes the same mistake by leaving Brandon and his lackeys in charge. Brandon only knows how to do things one way: Ralph's way. And we've seen the kind of results that gets.

                            If Pegula takes over, I want a scorched earth policy. Russ and every single one of his lackeys need to be gone.
                            Slash & burn doesn't work in the NFL until you get a new GM, so you're basically saying you want Whaley's head on a silver platter ?

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                            • Fletch
                              Registered User
                              • May 2007
                              • 3166
                              #15
                              Re: Pegula

                              Originally posted by Ginger Vitis View Post
                              It has been said Polian and Littman had troubles seeing eye to eye at the end of polians tenure in Buffalo.. Littman I think is easily disposable and thought Jim Overdorf was the cap guy and he is easily disposableas well
                              Cap Guys are a dime a dozen. Don't we have one or two here?
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                              Post #46

                              Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                              (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                              Originally Posted by pmoon6
                              The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                              You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                              Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                              The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                              ------

                              "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                              "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                              "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                              Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                              "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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