A lost decade...

[CommissarSpartacus]

I haven't really been paying attention to the Bills much, so what's the deal?

This will be the 10th years since the debacle of JP Losman bit us in the ass. 10 years since we had a winning season.

It was among the dumbest things Ralph ever did, telling Mularkey they were letting Bledsoe go so they could start Losman over the objections of the people he'd hired to make judgments about how to win games.

Doomed us to 10 years of utter futility.

So, is there anything about the current administration that will make me stand up and say "Hey, maybe these guys ARE smart enough to get it done"?

Cuz from what I saw last year, both the coaching staff and the starting qb don't inspire much confidence.

Am I wrong?

[swiper]

Re: A lost decade...

Stick to Benghazi. You're doing good work with that. Trolling the Bills board is unbecoming for the third assistant director of 1980's Rob Lowe movie.

[jimmifli]

Re: A lost decade...

So, is there anything about the current administration that will make me stand up and say "Hey, maybe these guys ARE smart enough to get it done"?

Cuz from what I saw last year, both the coaching staff and the starting qb don't inspire much confidence.

Am I wrong?

To the best of our knowledge EJ has never stolen a boat. And none of his teammates tried to break his leg as a rookie. He managed that all by himself.

The current administration hasn't demonstrated any ability to do much more than the status quo. With the exception of Whaley, apparently he was highly regarded by someone other than us, but nobody knows by whom. He has at least shown a willingness to take risks. Some of them seem like smart risks, so he might not be an idiot like the last decade of GMs.

Mostly we're hoping the new owner cleans house in January.

[Fletch]

Re: A lost decade...

I haven't really been paying attention to the Bills much, so what's the deal?

This will be the 10th years since the debacle of JP Losman bit us in the ass. 10 years since we had a winning season.

It was among the dumbest things Ralph ever did, telling Mularkey they were letting Bledsoe go so they could start Losman over the objections of the people he'd hired to make judgments about how to win games.

Doomed us to 10 years of utter futility.

So, is there anything about the current administration that will make me stand up and say "Hey, maybe these guys ARE smart enough to get it done"?

Cuz from what I saw last year, both the coaching staff and the starting qb don't inspire much confidence.

Am I wrong?

No, you're hardly wrong. It's just that some people here had extensive difficulty with their toilet training when they were young.

There is no defense of the team for what you say. The big problem with most people that dominate message boards is that they usually can't tell that they're getting screwed on the front end of the developments, it takes them getting run over by the mack truck that others can see coming from a number of blocks away. Instead of being able to understand that they're in the process of getting screwed, you'll only hear it from them once it's past tense. We're getting screwed by Whaley, Marrone, etc. too.

It goes well beyond Ralph telling Mularkey to get rid of Bledsoe for Losman. The decision to trade away a 13th overall for Bledsoe was even dumber. Everyone went gaga over the thought that somehow it was a huge coup since Bledsoe played for the Pats and it was a double whammy. It was as double whammy alright, for the Pats.

Among Wilson's biggest blunders were hiring Donahoe and giving him the keys to the kingdom. He's what spawned a lot of it during his time here. Ever since Butler and AJ Smith left this team hasn't had a prayer.

These guys react like children because they have trouble adjusting to the obvious and because it's been stated a million times. Instead of not saying anything constructive or intelligent, they add what they know how to add.

[Fletch]

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By the way, Whaley treats this team as if it's his personal casino. Marrone's next job should have been at DI-AA school. Hackett should be selling plumbing supplies somewhere.

[Oaf]

Re: A lost decade...

Marrone's next job should have been at DI-AA school. Hackett should be selling plumbing supplies somewhere.

Don't disagree, though I generally like DM.

[Fletch]

Re: A lost decade...

Don't disagree, though I generally like DM.

Sure, so do I. But being likeable doesn't answer the mail. I think that's the problem with this organization, when GM and coaching opening arise it seems like their first goal is to find people that are well-liked in the region instead of Coughlin types that are winners but may be rough around the edges.

Think about it, Nix was a good guy, so was Gailey. Everyone loved Levy, Jauron was not unlikeable. Donahoe was very nice and pleasant. I mean it's not like they hire *******s. Maybe they should. Polian was disliked by several in the organization after a while, Wilson and Littman included. Who would you have fired, Littman or Polian? Polian can be a little rough around the edges too.

Take Jon Gruden for example, does he fit the mold of the typical Bills hire from a personality perspective? Hardly.

This organization seems to be more concerned about their GMs and coaches getting along more at parties and PR events than they do about putting a winning team on the field. There's no argument to counter that since all the hires, at least the ones that come to mind, were really nice guys, just not winners or even had winning credentials prior to coming here and they've produced nothing but losing teams.

Belicheat isn't well liked, neither are the Harbaugh bros. Carroll is, but he's the odd man out. Coughlin has people on pins and needles often.

Those guys just win and don't care about being nice or good guys.

[Ginger Vitis]

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Donahoe was very nice and pleasant.

No he wasn't.. His end of 2003 rant left him with egg on his face.. He could be rude and disrespectful with Bills fans.. A paranoid man who wanted to control what the media said about him and the Bills. There were stories about Bills employees being terrified of him and his sudden outbursts

[jamze132]

Re: A lost decade...

This team would be able to take the next step if EJ was an NFL capable QB. But since our roster doesn't possess one of those, the best we'll do if everything else falls into place is 8-8.

Whaley and Marrone's career's are on the line with EJ. The new owner is going to start allover next year. If we can get to 8-8, they may get another year to prove themselves.

[Night Train]

Re: A lost decade...

The coaching staff is still unknown but they have no shot if the QB play doesn't improve.

The D sure looks good.

[GreedoII]

Re: A lost decade...

I haven't really been paying attention to the Bills much, so what's the deal?

This will be the 10th years since the debacle of JP Losman bit us in the ass. 10 years since we had a winning season.

It was among the dumbest things Ralph ever did, telling Mularkey they were letting Bledsoe go so they could start Losman over the objections of the people he'd hired to make judgments about how to win games.



Doomed us to 10 years of utter futility.

So, is there anything about the current administration that will make me stand up and say "Hey, maybe these guys ARE smart enough to get it done"?

Cuz from what I saw last year, both the coaching staff and the starting qb don't inspire much confidence.

Am I wrong?

We will be waiting another ten with this crappy QB and Wilson leftovers lurking about. (Brandon/Littman/Overdorf/Nix/Carpenter)

[The King]

Re: A lost decade...

I agree on some level but I think there a few other factors. Bledsoe blew the doors off when coming here in 02. He threw for 4300 yards most by a Bills QB ever. He had two WR's with over 1200 yards.

He was also sacked 54x.

The Offseason that year was a disaster. The Bills traded Price for a 1st rounder (great move) but they let Centers walk a guy who caught 43 passes. They let Reimersma go and replaced him with Mark Campbell. The Bills let guys who pulled in 169 receptions for close to 200 yards and didn't replace them. They also completely ignored the need to stabilize a line for a non-mobile QB.

That year we wasted the first round pick on McGahee, took a lousy DE (Kelsay) in the 2nd, and a one dimensional LBer in the 3rd (Crowell).

We were a vertical offense that took everything away from a pocket passer and we ignored the glaring fact that he was sacked 54x. That was the nail in the coffin.

[JoeMama]

Re: A lost decade...

I haven't really been paying attention to the Bills much, so what's the deal?

This will be the 10th years since the debacle of JP Losman bit us in the ass. 10 years since we had a winning season.

It was among the dumbest things Ralph ever did, telling Mularkey they were letting Bledsoe go so they could start Losman over the objections of the people he'd hired to make judgments about how to win games.

Doomed us to 10 years of utter futility.

So, is there anything about the current administration that will make me stand up and say "Hey, maybe these guys ARE smart enough to get it done"?

Cuz from what I saw last year, both the coaching staff and the starting qb don't inspire much confidence.

Am I wrong?

Gee, thanks for the ground-breaking reminder that we've sucked the last 10 years.

I had totally forgotten.

Way to keep up with your Bills news. Got any other hot bombshells for us today?

[Bill Cody]

Re: A lost decade...

I agree on some level but I think there a few other factors. Bledsoe blew the doors off when coming here in 02. He threw for 4300 yards most by a Bills QB ever. He had two WR's with over 1200 yards.

He was also sacked 54x.

The Offseason that year was a disaster. The Bills traded Price for a 1st rounder (great move) but they let Centers walk a guy who caught 43 passes. They let Reimersma go and replaced him with Mark Campbell. The Bills let guys who pulled in 169 receptions for close to 200 yards and didn't replace them. They also completely ignored the need to stabilize a line for a non-mobile QB.

That year we wasted the first round pick on McGahee, took a lousy DE (Kelsay) in the 2nd, and a one dimensional LBer in the 3rd (Crowell).

We were a vertical offense that took everything away from a pocket passer and we ignored the glaring fact that he was sacked 54x. That was the nail in the coffin.

It wasn't just the sacks either. Bledsoe was taking a terrible beating behind a line that was not good. If he had had a good line, especially up the middle where a pocket passer needs it I think he would have thrown for 5000 yards. Instead they ignored the line and took away his weapons. When he failed they blamed him.

[Fletch]

Re: A lost decade...

I agree on some level but I think there a few other factors. Bledsoe blew the doors off when coming here in 02. He threw for 4300 yards most by a Bills QB ever. He had two WR's with over 1200 yards.

He was also sacked 54x.

He also couldn't find the end zone with any regularity with all of those yards.

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Gee, thanks for the ground-breaking reminder that we've sucked the last 10 years.

I had totally forgotten.

Way to keep up with your Bills news. Got any other hot bombshells for us today?

LOL