Per Profootballtalk "Bills are Pegula's to Lose"

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  • THATHURMANATOR
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    • Jul 2002
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    Per Profootballtalk "Bills are Pegula's to Lose"

    As the process of selling the Buffalo Bills continues to move forward, some broader observations regarding the situation have arisen.


    Really all Tim Graham reporting.

    As the process of selling the Buffalo Bills continues to move forward, some broader observations regarding the situation have arisen.

    Tim Graham of the Buffalo News has shared a pair of them. First, citing an unnamed source previously involved in the sale, Graham says that the team is “Pegula’s to lose.”
  • Fletch
    Registered User
    • May 2007
    • 3166

    #2
    Re: Per Profootballtalk "Bills are Pegula's to Lose"

    Yeah, here's another similar piece that's very good.



    Still seems like speculation on Brown's part since he writes;

    But locally, Pegula has emerged from the fog as the favorite of the fans, and perhaps of the Bills officials who are handling the sale following the death of Ralph Wilson.

    Kinda sounds like he's speculating there regarding the sentiments of "Bills officials," who aren't handling the sale.

    But ya gotta love the quote about winning by Pegula.
    http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

    Post #46

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    Originally Posted by pmoon6
    The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

    You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

    Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

    The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
    ------

    "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

    "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

    "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

    Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

    "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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    • THATHURMANATOR
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      • Jul 2002
      • 69112

      #3
      Re: Per Profootballtalk "Bills are Pegula's to Lose"

      Agreed Fletch.

      All the arguing aside I think Pegula is the best option for the franchise, obviously for keeping them here, and for long term success.

      I know the Sabres were worst in the league last year but I do see a real vision behind that franchise. They have the best farm system in hockey and are still loaded with high draft picks.

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      • OpIv37
        Acid Douching Asswipe
        • Sep 2002
        • 101274

        #4
        Re: Per Profootballtalk "Bills are Pegula's to Lose"

        Originally posted by THATHURMANATOR View Post
        Agreed Fletch.

        All the arguing aside I think Pegula is the best option for the franchise, obviously for keeping them here, and for long term success.

        I know the Sabres were worst in the league last year but I do see a real vision behind that franchise. They have the best farm system in hockey and are still loaded with high draft picks.
        With the Sabres, Pegula inherited most of that mess. His only mistake was spending two years trying to win with Darcy's trash instead of breaking it down sooner.

        And this is good news, but the way this roller coaster has gone, I fully expect tomorrow's headline to be "Bon Jovi increases bid, is now front runner." Every time we think this Toronto crap is dead, it keeps coming back.
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        • THATHURMANATOR
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          • Jul 2002
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          #5
          Re: Per Profootballtalk "Bills are Pegula's to Lose"

          Haha Op I agree!

          I won't get too excited until it is official!

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          • Buffalogic
            Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
            • Feb 2006
            • 5345

            #6
            Re: Per Profootballtalk "Bills are Pegula's to Lose"

            He won already. Rejoice.

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            • WagonCircler
              Escaped Convict
              • Jul 2002
              • 5876

              #7
              Re: Per Profootballtalk "Bills are Pegula's to Lose"

              To me, the most important thing to remember is that Pegula is simply moving whatever money he spends on the Bills from one safe, long term investment (recent land sold) to another. This is like one of us taking a house that we already paid the mortgage off on and sold at a huge profit, then buying another house with the proceeds from the sale.

              On the other hand, Bon Jovi is hitting up all the payday loan places he can find and returning bottles and cans at Wegmans, hoping he can scrounge together enough cash to make the rent.

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              • OpIv37
                Acid Douching Asswipe
                • Sep 2002
                • 101274

                #8
                Re: Per Profootballtalk "Bills are Pegula's to Lose"

                Originally posted by WagonCircler View Post
                To me, the most important thing to remember is that Pegula is simply moving whatever money he spends on the Bills from one safe, long term investment (recent land sold) to another. This is like one of us taking a house that we already paid the mortgage off on and sold at a huge profit, then buying another house with the proceeds from the sale.

                On the other hand, Bon Jovi is hitting up all the payday loan places he can find and returning bottles and cans at Wegmans, hoping he can scrounge together enough cash to make the rent.
                That's not entirely accurate. It does seem like Bon Jovi is hard pressed to come up with the cash to be the majority owner, but the group itself has solid finances.

                Still, I agree with the general sentiment that Pegula has more solid finances than the Toronto group.
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                • WagonCircler
                  Escaped Convict
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5876

                  #9
                  Re: Per Profootballtalk "Bills are Pegula's to Lose"

                  Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                  That's not entirely accurate. It does seem like Bon Jovi is hard pressed to come up with the cash to be the majority owner, but the group itself has solid finances.

                  Still, I agree with the general sentiment that Pegula has more solid finances than the Toronto group.
                  It's a ******* metaphor. Jesus.

                  And if Bon Jovi is to be the principal owner (a deal breaker for him), then he is currently maxed out, according to NFL rules. If he's not the principal owner, then all kinds of other complications enter the picture and make this into an entirely different bid with many other potentially complicating factors, not the least of which are the legal implications of selling a business to a foreign owner. Schumer and his crew could have an absolute field day with that one.

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                  • trapezeus
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 19525

                    #10
                    Re: Per Profootballtalk "Bills are Pegula's to Lose"

                    Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                    With the Sabres, Pegula inherited most of that mess. His only mistake was spending two years trying to win with Darcy's trash instead of breaking it down sooner.

                    And this is good news, but the way this roller coaster has gone, I fully expect tomorrow's headline to be "Bon Jovi increases bid, is now front runner." Every time we think this Toronto crap is dead, it keeps coming back.
                    i give him some credit for sticking with darcy. the knock on darcy was that money held him back. darcy had some legendary trades....one which we'll still benefit from if we suck and the islanders suck this year.

                    as a guy without pro hockey knowledge from a management perspective, he came in, tries to loosen the reigns where he saw fit and let the coach and GM sink or swim on their own merit. and they sank, and he cut them.

                    as much as i despise what the bills have become under the brandon watch, if pegula says, "we think you were held back by xy and z, i will remove that, here is one year to make a big change, i'd respect that."

                    it's a more compassionate way to run a company. let a person fail on their own merit or succeed on their merit. but give them a chance. and if they fail, then explain exactly why the decision is made and move on. It also gives him time to build up his knowledge on the team on a day to day basis, and leaves him free to view the issues of stadium building, and how he's going to use the team to generate higher revenues throughout the city.

                    i also respect pegula's sabre vision as it is now. it's a long road, but it's a much better risk to take as a fan that we might have some crap hockey now, but we are building for a championship. if it doesn't work, there will be some excitement between now and when they have to start over. it's a nice change of pace from "let's see if we can get the 8th seed and make miracles happen."

                    the bills have all but come out and said they've gone all in to make the playoffs. they literally don't care if they struggle to fill in pieces next year, all they wanted was one game in the playoffs to prove they are on the right track. A pegula will at least give you a piece of mind that when they tear it down, building doesn't mean "let's make the playoffs". it means, "let's win".

                    and simply having that attitude is worth the risk of failing. it's better than failing with the goal of being mediocre.

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                    • better days
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                      • Jan 2010
                      • 22028

                      #11
                      Re: Per Profootballtalk "Bills are Pegula's to Lose"

                      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                      That's not entirely accurate. It does seem like Bon Jovi is hard pressed to come up with the cash to be the majority owner, but the group itself has solid finances.

                      Still, I agree with the general sentiment that Pegula has more solid finances than the Toronto group.
                      Yes the Toronto group has money, but I read that the money they have is not liquid. Also Bon Jovi has refused to be a part of that group unless he is the primary person in that group.

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