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  • DetDannyWilliams
    Nobody in Hawaii wears a tie.
    • Feb 2013
    • 4186
    #1

    WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bills-nfl/falls-outer-harbor-not-among-finalists-for-site-of-new-bills-stadium-20140826
    Last edited by DetDannyWilliams; 08-26-2014, 05:23 PM.
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  • better days
    Registered User
    • Jan 2010
    • 22028
    #2
    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM,NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    Well, I can tell you where the new Stadium will go....wherever Terry Pegula wants it to go.
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    • YardRat
      Well, lookie here...
      • Dec 2004
      • 86315
      #3
      Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

      The state commission will, of course, come up with a list of sites that require the least amount of investment by the state. Don't be surprised if the current location is deemed the best as a recommendation.
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      • Homegrown
        Havin' a ball ... rollin' to the bottom
        • Jul 2008
        • 2774
        #4
        Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

        The study also did not consider any potential sites in Ontario, a no-brainer for a New York State-funded project in a year when Cuomo is up for re-election.
        That part gave me a chuckle ...

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        • Night Train
          Retired - On Several Levels
          • Jul 2005
          • 33117
          #5
          Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

          Originally posted by YardRat View Post
          The state commission will, of course, come up with a list of sites that require the least amount of investment by the state. Don't be surprised if the current location is deemed the best as a recommendation.
          The parking lot across the street from the current stadium, if a new one is built. Then the current Ralph becomes a new parking lot.

          Or, just upgrade the current one. They have the infrastructure, parking and tailgating that works for everyone.
          Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit
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          • WagonCircler
            Escaped Convict
            • Jul 2002
            • 5876
            #6
            Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

            Perry Street Projects.

            I hear it's a done deal.

            With heavy involvement from Delaware North.
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            • Swiper
              Legendary Zoner
              • Sep 2010
              • 33105
              #7
              Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

              Is there enough room there?

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              • Fletch
                Registered User
                • May 2007
                • 3166
                #8
                Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

                As if there was any question that Niagara Falls had a chance. Trying to cram that many cars into the corner of the state where there are no major highways or entry/exit routes was a silly notion anyway, as bad as putting it in Canada and expecting WNY-ers to travel.
                http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

                Post #46

                Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                Originally Posted by pmoon6
                The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                ------

                "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                • DraftBoy
                  Administrator
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 107443
                  #9
                  Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

                  I can't envision any way that a new owner (Pegula) would not basically demand a new stadium on land that he can acquire (or may already have) and not lease from the County.
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                  • YardRat
                    Well, lookie here...
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 86315
                    #10
                    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

                    The state is setting themselves up for negotiations, and this study will give them more rationale for playing a little hardball. Smart, pro-active move by them, actually.
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                    • Fletch
                      Registered User
                      • May 2007
                      • 3166
                      #11
                      Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

                      Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                      I can't envision any way that a new owner (Pegula) would not basically demand a new stadium on land that he can acquire (or may already have) and not lease from the County.
                      I wonder what that would reduce the cost of a new stadium by. Presumably that land cost is a part of the total cost of the stadium. Not really sure it's all that sizeable though. I mean what, even if land sells for $1M/acre, which I'm sure it doesn't there, we're not talking about all that much in the grand scheme of things, a few percent of the overall cost.

                      I just wish they'd announce Pegula the winning bidder and let's move on already.
                      http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

                      Post #46

                      Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                      (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                      Originally Posted by pmoon6
                      The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                      You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                      Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                      The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                      ------

                      "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                      "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                      "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                      Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                      "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                      • Mace
                        Haha...yeah you think so ?
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 20315
                        #12
                        Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

                        Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                        The state is setting themselves up for negotiations, and this study will give them more rationale for playing a little hardball. Smart, pro-active move by them, actually.
                        You know it was a surprisingly quick, efficient, forward-looking move by the State in this case. Saves everyone time, and gives the new owner options tacitly endorsed by the State, while giving the State a solid bird's eye view of the best options available to a new Owner.
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                        • WagonCircler
                          Escaped Convict
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 5876
                          #13
                          Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

                          Originally posted by Swiper View Post
                          Is there enough room there?

                          http://www.youinweb.com/profiles/142..._332932062.htm
                          More than enough. They would demolish the projects and buy up the land around them, of which there's plenty, mostly vacant. I posted an aerial map about 3 months ago. I'll see if I can find it.

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                          • WagonCircler
                            Escaped Convict
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 5876
                            #14
                            Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

                            Originally posted by Swiper View Post
                            Is there enough room there?

                            http://www.youinweb.com/profiles/142..._332932062.htm
                            Here's a cut and paste. I think I may have dropped Ralph II on the Casino, but, as you can see, there's also Father Conway Park due South and more projects in the non-hilighted areas. Also plenty of Thruway access with a minimum of infrastructure.

                            It would put all three Buffalo stadiums within walking distance of each other and would create year round events in the "Stadium District", making it far more attractive for development, which would build on the great progress already begun in Canalside.

                            I also had a conversation with a Delaware North employee this week who strongly believes that Jacobs will be involved with financing.

                            Originally posted by wagoncircler View Post
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                            • gebobs
                              One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 11520
                              #15
                              Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

                              Please not the Waterfront. Why in the name of Jove would you do that? Reclaim it and make it greenspace. Put the stadium somewhere else.
                              Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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