Jay Cutler Was The Most Catastrophic Quarterback Of Week 1

[imbondz]

not sure this is scientific, but kinda interesting.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/jay-cutler-was-the-most-catastrophic-quarterback-of-wee-1632009572

Sunday's box score shows that Jay Cutler threw two interceptions and his team lost to the Bills. What it doesn't show is just how much of a nightmare Cutler inflicted on his team's chances. According to data from Brian Burke of Advanced Football Analytics, Cutler was responsible for three of the top six most detrimental plays in the NFL on Sunday.

[The Jokeman]

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not sure this is scientific, but kinda interesting.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/jay-cutler-was-the-most-catastrophic-quarterback-of-wee-1632009572

Sunday's box score shows that Jay Cutler threw two interceptions and his team lost to the Bills. What it doesn't show is just how much of a nightmare Cutler inflicted on his team's chances. According to data from Brian Burke of Advanced Football Analytics, Cutler was responsible for three of the top six most detrimental plays in the NFL on Sunday.

Cutler has always been a big arm QB but it seems when he's asked to make the play that counts he just can't get it done. Yet at least he did so some good things in his game to at least put his team in position to be in the game unlike Romo. A few other guys who had disasters were Alex Smith and former Bear Luke McCown according to ESPN's QBR formula http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr

[better days]

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I said before the game, Cutler throws INT's when he is pressured, and the Bills brought the pressure yesterday.

[BillsImpossible]

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Cutler passed too much, and the Bears couldn't run the ball. Less than 100 yards for Forte.

How did the Seahawks dismantle the Broncos last Super Bowl?

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014020200/2013/POST22/seahawks@broncos#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap2000000324015&tab=recap

Russell Wilson was 18 of 25 for 206 yards and 2 TD's.

The days of one man quarterback driven teams in the NFL are over.

[Fletch]

Re: Jay Cutler Was The Most Catastrophic Quarterback Of Week 1

not sure this is scientific, but kinda interesting.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/jay-cutler-was-the-most-catastrophic-quarterback-of-wee-1632009572

Sunday's box score shows that Jay Cutler threw two interceptions and his team lost to the Bills. What it doesn't show is just how much of a nightmare Cutler inflicted on his team's chances. According to data from Brian Burke of Advanced Football Analytics, Cutler was responsible for three of the top six most detrimental plays in the NFL on Sunday.

So wait a minute, this piece essentially blames Cutler for the Bears loss, it doesn't give credit to our D. Which means that Cutler won us the game, not us.

So which is it? Did we outplay the Bears, or did Cutler cost them the game due to his poor play?

Let me guess, despite the glaring lack of fundamental football stats that typically accompany a win for the winning team, like 1st-downs, 3rd conversions, TOP, etc., our team forced Cutler to play like crap.

Oddly, I didn't read anything in that piece about our swarming defense that allowed over 400 yards. Sounds to me like we won more to poor execution on the part of Cutler and the Bears' offense, who seemed to have no trouble moving the ball on a hefty 4.8 ypc rushing average and over 350 yards passing by Cutler.

Anyway, just curious which it is, that we got a little lucky or that we outplayed Chicago, which I don't see, either in game or statistically.

Open the doors and let the psychos in ...

[TacklingDummy]

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Obviously Cutler was the Bills best player yesterday.

[EricStratton]

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The article doesn't look like it blames the win (or the Bears loss) of Cutler mistakes, just that Cutler was involved in three of the six plays most responsible for his team not winning.

No opinion is given in the article of whether defenses were responsible for the plays or if they were mistakes.

[Fletch]

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Cutler passed too much, and the Bears couldn't run the ball. Less than 100 yards for Forte.

How did the Seahawks dismantle the Broncos last Super Bowl?

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014020200/2013/POST22/seahawks@broncos#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap2000000324015&tab=recap

Russell Wilson was 18 of 25 for 206 yards and 2 TD's.

The days of one man quarterback driven teams in the NFL are over.

What do you mean the Bears couldn't run the ball, Forte averaged 4.8 ypc. If we allow that on the season our rushing D will be worse than last season's. It's more accurate to say that they chose not to run the ball, they were doing it effectively when they did obviously.

Cutler wasn't exactly having difficulty cutting through out secondary. He threw for 350 yards.

[Fletch]

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The article doesn't look like it blames the win (or the Bears loss) of Cutler mistakes, just that Cutler was involved in three of the six plays most responsible for his team not winning.

No opinion is given in the article of whether defenses were responsible for the plays or if they were mistakes.

Do you think our D played well?

29 Bears 1st downs

349 passing yards for Cutler, 427 total net yards.

[EricStratton]

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They held a team that averaged 28 points per game last year to 20 in 4+ quarters and yesterday and so far tonight 15 teams scored more then Chicago so if points are what matters then they played well enough.

Was it great, or course not but it was good enough.

[YardRat]

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The only stat that matters is 23-20.

Somebody better tell Joe Flacco's Ravens and Eli Manning's Giants v.1 that they have to give their Lombardi Trophy's back, because looking at the statistics they were both outplayed by San Fran and New England, respectively.

[delectrolux]

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Unfortunately for statisticians, it would appear the Bills play a "bend but don't break" style of defense. It will result in big yards and stats for a good offense and QB. Fortunately though, it results in big D plays and low scores.

What remains to be seen is if we just got lucky, or if that is indeed our D strategy. They said the plan was to keep everything in front of them to eliminate the huge plays, so I'm optimistic it was the plan.

[chernobylwraiths]

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Bills win, I'm happy.

Bradham and Gilmore hopefully both back this week. Looking forward to Sunday.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

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What remains to be seen is if we just got lucky, or if that is indeed our D strategy. They said the plan was to keep everything in front of them to eliminate the huge plays, so I'm optimistic it was the plan.

It was. Watch BB.com. They dropped 7 most of the time after the first Bears offensive series. Making Cutler goes through long series of play to score. So the strategy can be summarized as in 1) stop the run, 2) prevent long passes. So what gives is a lof of short passes underneath and hopefully we get hands on a few ball for take away.

Bears offense as a whole is very good. Maybe Seahawks can shut them down completely, but not most teams. Accomplish what Bills strategy dictated is a win in my book.

Now the Bills offense on the other hand has a lot of work to do. I believe the O-line has a lot of improvement to be made. They executed pass block reasonably well, allowing Manuel to develop some comfort level. The run blocking had more misses than hits, which, for the makeup of this team, is unacceptable. Most of the screens, gadget plays were setup perfectly but due to come linemen not in place where they need to be, resulted nothing. Just look across the field and see how Bears did on their screens, picks, etc. There is a reason why people makes Bears offense as superbowl caliber: not only they have the talent, but also well coached and well executed in general.

[stuckincincy]

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It was. Watch BB.com. They dropped 7 most of the time after the first Bears offensive series. Making Cutler goes through long series of play to score. So the strategy can be summarized as in 1) stop the run, 2) prevent long passes. So what gives is a lof of short passes underneath and hopefully we get hands on a few ball for take away.

Bears offense as a whole is very good. Maybe Seahawks can shut them down completely, but not most teams. Accomplish what Bills strategy dictated is a win in my book.

Now the Bills offense on the other hand has a lot of work to do. I believe the O-line has a lot of improvement to be made. They executed pass block reasonably well, allowing Manuel to develop some comfort level. The run blocking had more misses than hits, which, for the makeup of this team, is unacceptable. Most of the screens, gadget plays were setup perfectly but due to come linemen not in place where they need to be, resulted nothing. Just look across the field and see how Bears did on their screens, picks, etc. There is a reason why people makes Bears offense as superbowl caliber: not only they have the talent, but also well coached and well executed in general.

If the Bears were faced with the Bills dropping back 7 most of the time, then they were idiots not to run Forte much more than they did.