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  • BillsImpossible
    Registered User
    • Mar 2013
    • 16206

    Corey Graham Needs To Play More Than 33 Plays

    Corey Graham was the MVP of the Buffalo Bills after the first two weeks.

    He was the biggest difference maker on the field for the Bills against the Bears, and Dolphins.

    Against the Chargers, Corey Graham did not play as much.

    %UC!

    Stephon Gilmore had 49 plays, or 74%

    Leodis McKelvin had 46 plays, or 70%

    Corey Graham had 33 plays, or 50%

    Makes no sense!

    Shouldn't great play be rewarded with more playing time, not less?

    Don't give me this, "We got 3 starting cornerbacks in rotation," bull crap, Marrone!

    Why take playing time away from a player that has been making game changing plays?
  • BOBM253
    elite QB
    • Aug 2010
    • 144

    #2
    Re: Corey Graham Needs To Play More Than 33 Plays

    Marrone is starting to sound like Chan. Everybody has a turn.

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    • trapezeus
      Legendary Zoner
      • Oct 2004
      • 19525

      #3
      Re: Corey Graham Needs To Play More Than 33 Plays

      especially when you are getting beat deep and the weeks prior he broke up a few deeper plays and picked off the ball.
      graham has to be in the game more than leodis.

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      • Night Train
        Retired - On Several Levels
        • Jul 2005
        • 33117

        #4
        Re: Corey Graham Needs To Play More Than 33 Plays

        It will be interesting to see if Graham does indeed get far more playing time. He should be covering the opponents #1 WR right now.

        Both McKelvin and Gilmore are currently struggling to cover their own shadow.
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        • OpIv37
          Acid Douching Asswipe
          • Sep 2002
          • 101306

          #5
          Re: Corey Graham Needs To Play More Than 33 Plays

          So wait, if it's about whose turn it is, why was Graham in so few plays compared to Gilmore and Leodis?

          I'm really starting to question Marrone's competence after the way things have been going.

          I know, Graham doesn't have the draft status of the other two, but he has far outplayed them and deserves to be the #1 corner til one of the other two earn it.
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          • k-oneputt
            Registered User
            • Jun 2009
            • 7131

            #6
            Re: Corey Graham Needs To Play More Than 33 Plays

            Gilmore and Graham are right now the two obvious starters.
            I can't fiqure out this McKelvin deal. He is a distant 3rd imo.

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            • stuckincincy
              Buffalo Bills Fan
              • Sep 2003
              • 15084

              #7
              Re: Corey Graham Needs To Play More Than 33 Plays

              Notable is the game by rookie LB Preston Brown. He was in for 66 snaps - every play on defense, and added 9 more on ST. Credited with 4 solo tackles and 7 assists. On the distaff side, it's questionable (to me) why a rookie has to get that much playing time.
              Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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              • Pinkerton Security
                Pinkerton's son
                • Feb 2006
                • 6003

                #8
                Re: Corey Graham Needs To Play More Than 33 Plays

                Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
                Notable is the game by rookie LB Preston Brown. He was in for 66 snaps - every play on defense, and added 9 more on ST. Credited with 4 solo tackles and 7 assists. On the distaff side, it's questionable (to me) why a rookie has to get that much playing time.
                Understand your point but the Chargers really ran the ball a lot and Brown is a run-oriented LB. I think its fairly simple.

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                • stuckincincy
                  Buffalo Bills Fan
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 15084

                  #9
                  Re: Corey Graham Needs To Play More Than 33 Plays

                  Originally posted by NaturalBornSpiller View Post
                  Understand your point but the Chargers really ran the ball a lot and Brown is a run-oriented LB. I think its fairly simple.
                  I'm not clear about you saying it was fairly simple. BUF would have to have known that SD would continue to run the ball, even though they were down their 2 top backs. That SD did, with Brown averaging 2.1 yards/carry, was smart of them. There's still something to be said by keeping a defense "honest", by not completely buying into the enhanced passing rules.

                  I really liked how the SD OC played his cards.

                  I think that BUF's hand was forced. Play the rookie because he was the best bet - their LB corps and its' (lack of) overall competency has been going on for years. Alonso was a bright spot, Takeo Spikes, Poz, Fletcher, Cowens. Lawson is ok, but is more a DE-oriented tweener than LB.

                  How a team can go on for so many years with out even stumbling across a strong, three man LB corps, is a mystery.
                  Last edited by stuckincincy; 09-23-2014, 01:04 PM.
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                  • Forward_Lateral
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 29897

                    #10
                    Re: Corey Graham Needs To Play More Than 33 Plays

                    Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
                    Notable is the game by rookie LB Preston Brown. He was in for 66 snaps - every play on defense, and added 9 more on ST. Credited with 4 solo tackles and 7 assists. On the distaff side, it's questionable (to me) why a rookie has to get that much playing time.
                    Who else do you propose they had out there in Brown's spot?

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                    • stuckincincy
                      Buffalo Bills Fan
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 15084

                      #11
                      Re: Corey Graham Needs To Play More Than 33 Plays

                      Originally posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
                      Who else do you propose they had out there in Brown's spot?
                      That's the problem. Right now, they have roster spots with Hughes and Lawson. And both are good players. But they are near-classic "tweeners", and now they hired Brandon Spikes, who does good against interior runs but is situated like a 5th DL without knuckles on the ground. He was in for 18 defensive plays last Sunday. His reputation follows him, and is proven - liability against passes. Why do I want a MLB like him? I expect my MLB to do general, overall duty. Be a field general, call defensive sets. I was concerned about talk of Alonso moving outside before his injury. OLB's having more specific responsibilities, and losing Alonso's thinking in the fly.

                      It's not who I or you propose - it's up to those that manage the club.
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                      • Night Train
                        Retired - On Several Levels
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 33117

                        #12
                        Re: Corey Graham Needs To Play More Than 33 Plays

                        Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
                        hired Brandon Spikes, who does good against interior runs but is situated like a 5th DL without knuckles on the ground. He was in for 18 defensive plays last Sunday.
                        He was benched for a long time, following his moronic head butt that that gave SD a first down and a quick score after on the first drive. He's normally on the field far more but is pulled on passing downs.
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                        • stuckincincy
                          Buffalo Bills Fan
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 15084

                          #13
                          Re: Corey Graham Needs To Play More Than 33 Plays

                          Originally posted by Night Train View Post
                          He was benched for a long time, following his moronic head butt that that gave SD a first down and a quick score after on the first drive. He's normally on the field far more but is pulled on passing downs.
                          I don't call him a bum - he's a decent NFL player. But he's like Lawson - also a decent pro - but they have a tweener skill set biased towards LOS play. So both of them get limited snaps throughout their careers.

                          Add in Hughes, and you have this mish-mosh that in some situations call for defense and coverage that a more traditional LB can provide.
                          Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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                          • Fletch
                            Registered User
                            • May 2007
                            • 3166

                            #14
                            Re: Corey Graham Needs To Play More Than 33 Plays

                            Originally posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
                            Who else do you propose they had out there in Brown's spot?
                            Great question. Posters here usually leave it at that. But that's the kind of question that a good front office asks and addresses during the offseason, not after 3 weeks of the regular season.

                            Notice that our newest impact player Spikes hasn't made nearly the impact that most here claimed he would and isn't even on the field over half the time.

                            This was totally predictable since he wasn't on the field anymore than that in New England, but so many here knew so much better.
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                            Post #46

                            Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                            (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                            Originally Posted by pmoon6
                            The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                            You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                            Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                            The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                            ------

                            "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                            "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                            "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                            Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                            "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                            • Fletch
                              Registered User
                              • May 2007
                              • 3166

                              #15
                              Re: Corey Graham Needs To Play More Than 33 Plays

                              Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
                              That's the problem. Right now, they have roster spots with Hughes and Lawson. And both are good players. But they are near-classic "tweeners", and now they hired Brandon Spikes, who does good against interior runs but is situated like a 5th DL without knuckles on the ground. He was in for 18 defensive plays last Sunday. His reputation follows him, and is proven - liability against passes. Why do I want a MLB like him? I expect my MLB to do general, overall duty. Be a field general, call defensive sets. I was concerned about talk of Alonso moving outside before his injury. OLB's having more specific responsibilities, and losing Alonso's thinking in the fly.

                              It's not who I or you propose - it's up to those that manage the club.
                              Again, something that few here comprehend, obviously, since most argued against that very point vehemently when you, I, or any other number of people realizing that pointed it out prior to the season starting.

                              Once again, we don't know wtf we're talking about, we just got lucky in our guessing.
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                              Post #46

                              Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                              (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                              Originally Posted by pmoon6
                              The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                              You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                              Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                              The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                              ------

                              "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                              "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                              "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                              Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                              "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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