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U.S. FCC votes unanimously to repeal sports TV blackout rule
U.S. FCC votes unanimously to repeal sports TV blackout rule
The U.S. Federal Communications Commission on Tuesday voted unanimously to eliminate a decades-old rule that has prohibited pay-TV providers from airing some home sports games, such as NFL football games, if the tickets to those games did not sell out.
Re: U.S. FCC votes unanimously to repeal sports TV blackout rule
That's socialism. Others pay for those who won't. With the blackout incentive removed, look for stadium ticket price increases. O, those tricky unintended consequences...
That's socialism. Others pay for those who won't. With the blackout incentive removed, look for stadium ticket price increases. O, those tricky unintended consequences...
That's socialism. Others pay for those who won't. With the blackout incentive removed, look for stadium ticket price increases. O, those tricky unintended consequences...
Stadium price increases?
How so?
Why should prices go up for something that can be seen on TV for free?
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The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
Re: U.S. FCC votes unanimously to repeal sports TV blackout rule
and goodell won't pay for this either. before the scandals, the chance of this going through was limited. the NFL would move around like a big gorilla and bully people to provide what they want. now as it weakens because of scandals, here is another situation where goodell was unable to maintain status quo, something the owners had wanted.
it's crazy to think that the loss of the blackout rule could cost him his job, but the rice story and the countless other PR disasters did not.
Why should prices go up for something that can be seen on TV for free?
I assume lower attendance. Fear of a blackout motivates some to go out and buy tix. Occasionally, private sector businesses buy up tix - sometimes local broadcasters because of the $ they get from ad revenue.
Owners face a problem. Will their cut of $ coming from the mandated airing of a home game - tv revenue - make up for the loss of ticket sales? What are each club's season tix status?
If every home game is to be televised regardless of gate, it is conceivable that prices will rise for attendees, to make up for the shortfall in total tix sales. Toss in clubs that have PSLs - folks may drop their tix, but then lose that expenditure forever. Tough to swallow.
As you say - free viewing of all home games. Many folks have said that sitting home, cooler at hand not filled with $9 dollar beers, no parking fees, no traffic, no having to essentially stand for 3 hours, no having to deal with language and potential violence is preferable to attending a game.
I'm tossing out thoughts here...not picking a fight or hunting for an argument.
Re: U.S. FCC votes unanimously to repeal sports TV blackout rule
Basic economics lesson: demand is at least partially a function of price. An increase in price causes a decrease in demand, and there is a break-even point where the increase in price causes such a decrease in demand the revenues actually fall.
Demand will already be down knowing that the games are on TV no matter what. Raising prices will suppress that demand even further and result in a net decrease in revenue very quickly.
Or to say it more simply: less people but tickets when the prices are high, and if enough people stop buying tickets, the owners lose money rather than gain money on the price increase.
That's socialism. Others pay for those who won't. With the blackout incentive removed, look for stadium ticket price increases. O, those tricky unintended consequences...
The NFL makes much more money from TV than Stadium tickets in the 21 Century.
A TV viewer is paying by watching on TV, increasing the ratings for that game which benefits the National Network & local Station.
And if anything, the competition of TV should drive the price of game tickets down, not up.
Basic economics lesson: demand is at least partially a function of price. An increase in price causes a decrease in demand, and there is a break-even point where the increase in price causes such a decrease in demand the revenues actually fall.
Demand will already be down knowing that the games are on TV no matter what. Raising prices will suppress that demand even further and result in a net decrease in revenue very quickly.
Or to say it more simply: less people but tickets when the prices are high, and if enough people stop buying tickets, the owners lose money rather than gain money on the price increase.
That is the conundrum that is coming. Do they raise prices in the short term? Keep them low in hopes that extra tv revenue kicks in? If net revenue decreases, how will that affect the CBA? Will the NFL shrink?
That is the conundrum that is coming. Do they raise prices in the short term? Keep them low in hopes that extra tv revenue kicks in? If net revenue decreases, how will that affect the CBA? Will the NFL shrink?
Many questions...
I think those that enjoy the live game experience will continue to go to games for the most part.
There may be a few people that go to games that would have stayed home if the game were on TV but not many.............unless the weather is terrible.
It would be STUPID to raise prices for tickets when people can watch on TV for free, if anything, prices go down.
I think those that enjoy the live game experience will continue to go to games for the most part.
There may be a few people that go to games that would have stayed home if the game were on TV but not many.............unless the weather is terrible.
It would be STUPID to raise prices for tickets when people can watch on TV for free, if anything, prices go down.
Well - what happens if prices go down? Are you certain that tv revenue makes up for that, and add in the loss of $ pocketed in from parking and concession sales.
Re: U.S. FCC votes unanimously to repeal sports TV blackout rule
If you read the article you will see that this does not prevent the NFL to black out games by private agreements (i.e., TV contracts).
What this does is strike down the federal law that forced black outs.
The NFL was able to previously blame the law when there was a black out. Now they can't.
Given there was only 2 black outs last year in total and that seat revenue as a percentage of all revenues (mostly TV contracts) is no longer as significant, it is possible the NFL comes out now to stop all black outs as a badly needed goodwill PR move.
The repealing of this FCC rule is basically a non-event.
Re: U.S. FCC votes unanimously to repeal sports TV blackout rule
I agree with this 100% for teams that use public funding to build their stadiums. If a team chose to build their stadium with private money then I have no issue with them being able to blackout games.
That's socialism. Others pay for those who won't. With the blackout incentive removed, look for stadium ticket price increases. O, those tricky unintended consequences...
Oh brother...
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but the NFL's entire business model is built upon self-imposed socialism. Profit sharing, the salary cap, etc.
And with all the money that states, counties, and municipalities put into stadiums, facilities, etc, it seems like the blackout rule is bull**** anyway since taxpayers already contribute to the team's existence.
Maybe season ticket holders will be squeezed for slightly higher ticket prices if attendance is down but ticket prices have been steadily rising for decades now. It's going to be difficult to get hard numbers on how this affects pricing.
Disclaimer: The sentiment expressed in this post is strictly for entertainment purposes only.
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