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trapezeus
10-03-2014, 08:26 AM
No science/stats behind my observations, but ponder and EJ happen to share more than Florida St in common. Both rely on dink and dunking. both seem to have lost the receiving corp confidence due to inaccuracy and their run games struggle with their lack of vision as a qb.

but it is insane that bridgewater was able to take a very shaky minny team and put up 41 points. when he's out, they are right back at the bottom. So perhaps this bills team which didn't struggle as much with EJ as the vikings did with Cassel/ponder can really rebound.


so the switch in an easy AFC East doesn't require a superstar. it requires decent qb play. Perhaps orton can be like a bridgewater.

Fletch
10-03-2014, 08:34 AM
The big difference is that Ponder has a fraction of the athletic ability that EJ has.

wolfpack
10-03-2014, 09:35 AM
The big difference is that Ponder has a fraction of the athletic ability that EJ has.

Really stat man?


<colgroup><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col></colgroup><tbody>
Name

College

POS

Height (in)

Weight (lbs)

Wonderlic

40 Yard

Bench Press

Vert Leap (in)

Broad Jump (in)

Shuttle
3Cone





Christian Ponder (http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Christian&l=Ponder&i=6374)

Florida State

QB

74

229

35

4.63



34

116

4.09

6.85



E.J. Manuel (http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=E.J.&l=Manuel&i=10278)

Florida State

QB

77

237

28

4.65



34

118

4.21

7.08


</tbody>

DynaPaul
10-03-2014, 01:10 PM
The lesson is not to draft an FSU quarterback.

Pinkerton Security
10-03-2014, 01:39 PM
Really stat man?


<tbody>
Name
College
POS
Height (in)
Weight (lbs)
Wonderlic
40 Yard
Bench Press
Vert Leap (in)
Broad Jump (in)
Shuttle
3Cone





Christian Ponder (http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Christian&l=Ponder&i=6374)
Florida State
QB
74
229
35
4.63

34
116
4.09
6.85


E.J. Manuel (http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=E.J.&l=Manuel&i=10278)
Florida State
QB
77
237
28
4.65

34
118
4.21
7.08

</tbody>


oh snap! PWNED!

streetkings01
10-03-2014, 03:01 PM
The lesson is not to draft an FSU quarterback.Or not draft Ponder and Manuel in the 1st round. Winston will be a good NFL QB just as long as he can keep his head on straight.

GvilleBills
10-03-2014, 03:02 PM
Really stat man?


<colgroup><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col><col></colgroup><tbody>
Name

College

POS

Height (in)

Weight (lbs)

Wonderlic

40 Yard

Bench Press

Vert Leap (in)

Broad Jump (in)

Shuttle
3Cone





Christian Ponder (http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Christian&l=Ponder&i=6374)

Florida State

QB

74

229

35

4.63



34

116

4.09

6.85



E.J. Manuel (http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=E.J.&l=Manuel&i=10278)

Florida State

QB

77

237

28

4.65



34

118

4.21

7.08


</tbody>



Haha, now play nice and give Fletch his lunch money back...

GvilleBills
10-03-2014, 03:04 PM
Winston will be a good NFL QB just as long as he can keep his head on straight.

Not happening. You're an FSU guy, where would you put your money?
He just doesn't get it.

Thurmal
10-03-2014, 04:05 PM
The lesson is not to draft an FSU quarterback.

Unless you're the Knicks and looking for a decent PG.

Shocker, incompetent Buffalo coveted Ponder as well as Manuel.