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  • FootballCEO
    Registered User
    • Jun 2008
    • 196

    Football Gameplan's 1st and Forever - Why Did the Bills Draft EJ Manuel?

    FBGP's 1st and Forever - Why Did the Bills Draft EJ Manuel?


    Good afternoon Bills fans! Our FBGP Analyst Gene Clemons asks the question in his 1st & Forever column: Why did the Bills draft EJ Manuel?


    Would love to hear you guys' thoughts on Gene's article


    Enjoy!


    Em
    www.footballgameplan.com
    "Where Football Makes Sense"
  • casdhf
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 17542

    #2
    Re: Football Gameplan's 1st and Forever - Why Did the Bills Draft EJ Manuel?

    Whoever wrote that clearly does not follow the Bills. Benching Manuel could save his career as the future of this team. Leaving him in there would certainly ruin it.
    Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
    cas,

    I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

    BillsZone Mod

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    • Novacane
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 42348

      #3
      Re: Football Gameplan's 1st and Forever - Why Did the Bills Draft EJ Manuel?

      The Bills were competitive in all four games, and it’s easy to argue that Manuel was not the reason they lost two in a row and when you look at their most recent WIN with Orton as quarterback, it’s easy to see that Orton was not the primary reason for winning.


      Couldn't disagree with this paragraph any stronger! Manuel was the reason they lost in Houston and there is no way they would of beaten Detroit with him.

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      • trapezeus
        Legendary Zoner
        • Oct 2004
        • 19525

        #4
        Re: Football Gameplan's 1st and Forever - Why Did the Bills Draft EJ Manuel?

        ej got yanked because of his performance, not his stat line. he wasn't in the right zip code and the receivers were giving up on him. unless he was going to be dramatically better on decision making and putting his throws somewhere catchable, the feeling was it wasn't coming along at all.

        i want EJ to develop, but i didn't see how he was going to do that in the games when he isn't making the right decisions with wide open receivers. he went back far enough watching the 4 games that it was worth pulling him.

        and the bills went in for a QB with a partially rebuilt team. ej wasn't the first pick in the rebuild. so you have half a team that is ready to win now. from what we hear, there isn't much discontent or bickering in the locker room. perhaps the move was to keep it that way.

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        • Gibby
          Registered User
          • Jun 2006
          • 18211

          #5
          Re: Football Gameplan's 1st and Forever - Why Did the Bills Draft EJ Manuel?

          Originally posted by FootballCEO View Post
          FBGP's 1st and Forever - Why Did the Bills Draft EJ Manuel?


          Good afternoon Bills fans! Our FBGP Analyst Gene Clemons asks the question in his 1st & Forever column: Why did the Bills draft EJ Manuel?


          Would love to hear you guys' thoughts on Gene's article


          Enjoy!


          Em
          Because he was the best of a bad lot. It could have been a lot worse. After all we could have taken Geno's Pizza or Barkley

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          • wolfpack
            Registered User
            • Aug 2008
            • 153

            #6
            Re: Football Gameplan's 1st and Forever - Why Did the Bills Draft EJ Manuel?

            Originally posted by casdhf View Post
            Whoever wrote that clearly does not follow the Bills. Benching Manuel could save his career as the future of this team. Leaving him in there would certainly ruin it.
            Tweet: @geneclemons
            Email: gclemons@footballgameplan.com

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            • Fletch
              Registered User
              • May 2007
              • 3166

              #7
              Re: Football Gameplan's 1st and Forever - Why Did the Bills Draft EJ Manuel?

              Originally posted by FootballCEO View Post
              Why Did the Bills Draft EJ Manuel?
              We drafted Manuel because Whaley, not Nix, was enamored with him. Anyone thinking that there is any other reason is misinformed.

              "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?"

              See ya Doug!

              http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

              Post #46

              Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
              (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
              Originally Posted by pmoon6
              The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

              You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

              Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

              The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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              "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

              "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

              "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

              Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

              "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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              • The King
                Without me it's just Awe so
                • Jun 2004
                • 42380

                #8
                Re: Football Gameplan's 1st and Forever - Why Did the Bills Draft EJ Manuel?

                As mentioned above it doesn't seem like the writer has all of the information Em. Bills had intentions on developing Manuel behind Kolb, that didn't work out because Kolb is literally so injury prone a sneeze is like JJ Watt. So they were forced to rush him into the line-up. Injuries caused him to come in and out of the line-up last year and he never really developed. This year he was at the front of a week QB spot, but the division is too competitive to let him learn on the job. So the Bills acquired Orton and paid him well, the switch has been in the works since that deal.

                They always wanted him behind a vet, they just didn't have the options.
                I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
                "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
                You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
                It was all
                true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
                He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
                mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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                • starrymessenger
                  Registered User
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 740

                  #9
                  Re: Football Gameplan's 1st and Forever - Why Did the Bills Draft EJ Manuel?

                  Well we prolly won't be hearing from the Bills before the second round next year.
                  And Mr. CEO you need to learn from Donald Trump. "Your fired" is what your writer needs to hear.

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                  • Homegrown
                    Havin' a ball ... rollin' to the bottom
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 2774

                    #10
                    Re: Football Gameplan's 1st and Forever - Why Did the Bills Draft EJ Manuel?

                    Originally posted by FootballCEO View Post
                    Would love to hear you guys' thoughts on Gene's article
                    Em
                    My thoughts on the article .... its not very well written.

                    Its full of a series of rhetorical questions, which to me is lazy

                    Why did the Buffalo Bills draft EJ Manuel?
                    What happened to the development part?
                    So why did the Bills give Manuel the quick hook?
                    Why give the impression that they don’t believe in their first round draft pick?
                    Why not keep developing him?
                    Why would the Bills throw in the towel on your first round pick now?
                    Are we really supposed to buy Kyle Orton as a better option or they using Manuel’s benching to try and keep their jobs longer?
                    The article ends with "Who really knows the reason ," ... most well written articles will actually have a conclusion, as opposed to a 'who knows'

                    Also, the text :

                    (AND I’M NOT COMPARING EJ MANUEL TO ANDREW LUCK FROM A SKILLS PERSPECTIVE)
                    Is condescending the reader, on many levels.

                    My $0.02

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                    • Meathead
                      Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 21349

                      #11
                      Re: Football Gameplan's 1st and Forever - Why Did the Bills Draft EJ Manuel?

                      ej was benched bc he was not able to consistently execute bread and butter nfl throws that every qb has to make. for the first two it looked like he had turned a small corner there, but the last two were just disasters. he was missing wide open guys, picking the wrong guy to throw to, bouncing key balls off the turf or throwing them into the gatorade table

                      normally a young qb is drafted by a team that is a bottom feeder, so then yeah it would be ok to just let him keep playing. but they arent. this is the deepest team theyve had for probably a decade. its arguable that the only thing holding them back was the substandard qb play. so when youve spent a bunch of money and made a bunch of moves to make the team better, and youve got a 31 yo guy on the bench with 70 nfl starts, you would be foolish not to let him run your offense if your young qb is consistently faltering

                      i said all along that ej should be playing as long as he was progressing and didnt have two abysmal games within a short time frame. unfortunately, those two games showed he really needed to sit down and do what he should have been doing all along - learning how to be an nfl qb from a solid pro who had been there before. the bills coaches screwed up multiple ways in preparing for ejs development so it isnt all his fault, but now they finally had the right set up to both give them a chance to win consistently and allow ej to learn and grow mentally from an on-field mentor

                      it was the right move imo
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