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  • casdhf
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    • Jul 2002
    • 17542

    Cap Question - Mike Williams

    So we traded for this guy and he makes like $7 million a year. Well worth his production.

    If we cut him at any point, we will have no dead cap, right?

    TB ate that all when they made the move.
    Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
    cas,

    I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

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  • Forward_Lateral
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 29897

    #2
    Re: Cap Question - Mike Williams

    Let's see how he does with Orton at QB. I expect to see Woods and Goodwin's production go up for sure, Williams likely as well.

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    • casdhf
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 17542

      #3
      Re: Cap Question - Mike Williams

      Still. Is the slot guy worth 7 mill?
      Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
      cas,

      I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

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      • EricStratton
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        • Jul 2002
        • 20893

        #4
        Re: Cap Question - Mike Williams

        Originally posted by casdhf View Post
        Still. Is the slot guy worth 7 mill?

        If he forces the safety to play it strait then he's worth every penny

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        • Luisito23
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          • Apr 2003
          • 7434

          #5
          Re: Cap Question - Mike Williams

          Originally posted by casdhf View Post
          Still. Is the slot guy worth 7 mill?

          No!...Definitely not.
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          • casdhf
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 17542

            #6
            Re: Cap Question - Mike Williams

            I'm not advocating cutting the guy at all. I'm just asking ... if we do, do we any cap hit? Personally, I think he will restructure at some point.
            Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
            cas,

            I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

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            • better days
              Registered User
              • Jan 2010
              • 22028

              #7
              Re: Cap Question - Mike Williams

              Originally posted by casdhf View Post
              Still. Is the slot guy worth 7 mill?
              Williams played on the outside in Tampa & if he needed to do that in Buffalo because of injuries or whatever he is capable of doing so as well as playing the slot.

              Mike is worth the money.

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              • Fletch
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                • May 2007
                • 3166

                #8
                Re: Cap Question - Mike Williams

                Originally posted by better days View Post
                Williams played on the outside in Tampa & if he needed to do that in Buffalo because of injuries or whatever he is capable of doing so as well as playing the slot.

                Mike is worth the money.
                Who isn't worth the money on this team to you?
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                • ghz in pittsburgh
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                  • Aug 2004
                  • 5861

                  #9
                  Re: Cap Question - Mike Williams

                  Not sure about his role right now. The Bills went from no outside receivers (read - a bunch of slot receivers) to all outside receivers and almost no slot guy.

                  Williams, Goodwin should play outside. Woods so far has not shown being a capable slot guy, much, much better outside. Sammy is an all around guy, but based on his size and skillset, I'd not be surprised that his production from the slot will be the best for his career. We may even see some this Sunday now that his ribs injury seems to finally fade.

                  Right now the slot belongs to Hogan. I saw a little bit of pre-game practice when the Bills were in Pittsburgh pre-season back in Aug. Hogan runs the best routes (crisp, clean) among all receivers, including Watkins; no wonder Stevie called him 7-11. However, I haven't seen him translating all that to actual games. Hines Ward started out in slot and was a master at that despite not having great speed. You need to grasp what the defense is doing quickly and finding that soft under belly of the coverage as well as giving your QB a clear path for the ball.
                  Last edited by ghz in pittsburgh; 10-09-2014, 10:16 AM.

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                  • better days
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 22028

                    #10
                    Re: Cap Question - Mike Williams

                    Originally posted by Fletch View Post
                    Who isn't worth the money on this team to you?
                    Urbik, Pears, Chris Williams, I guess that about covers it.

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                    • better days
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 22028

                      #11
                      Re: Cap Question - Mike Williams

                      Originally posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
                      Not sure about his role right now. The Bills went from no outside receivers (read - a bunch of slot receivers) to all outside receivers and almost no slot guy.

                      Williams, Goodwin should play outside. Woods so far has not shown being a capable slot guy, much, much better outside. Sammy is an all around guy, but based on his size and skillset, I'd not be surprised that his production from the slot will be the best for his career. We may even see some this Sunday now that his ribs injury seems to finally fade.

                      Right now the slot belongs to Hogan. I saw a little bit of pre-game practice when the Bills were in Pittsburgh pre-season back in Aug. Hogan runs the best routes (crisp, clean) among all receivers, including Watkins; no wonder Stevie called him 7-11. However, I haven't seen him translating all that to actual games. Hines Ward started out in slot and was a master at that despite not having great speed. You need to grasp what the defense is doing quickly and finding that soft under belly of the coverage as well as giving your QB a clear path for the ball.
                      Hogan got the nickname 7-11 while he was in Miami.

                      He made a couple nice catches against the Lions.

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                      • IlluminatusUIUC
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                        • Sep 2012
                        • 8966

                        #12
                        Re: Cap Question - Mike Williams

                        Originally posted by casdhf View Post
                        I'm not advocating cutting the guy at all. I'm just asking ... if we do, do we any cap hit? Personally, I think he will restructure at some point.
                        To my knowledge we wouldn't, but his contracts become guaranteed for the year if he appears in game 1 because he's a vested veteran. He also has some roster bonuses through the later years of his deal.


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                        • IlluminatusUIUC
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                          • Sep 2012
                          • 8966

                          #13
                          Re: Cap Question - Mike Williams

                          Originally posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
                          Not sure about his role right now. The Bills went from no outside receivers (read - a bunch of slot receivers) to all outside receivers and almost no slot guy.

                          Williams, Goodwin should play outside. Woods so far has not shown being a capable slot guy, much, much better outside. Sammy is an all around guy, but based on his size and skillset, I'd not be surprised that his production from the slot will be the best for his career. We may even see some this Sunday now that his ribs injury seems to finally fade.

                          Right now the slot belongs to Hogan. I saw a little bit of pre-game practice when the Bills were in Pittsburgh pre-season back in Aug. Hogan runs the best routes (crisp, clean) among all receivers, including Watkins; no wonder Stevie called him 7-11. However, I haven't seen him translating all that to actual games. Hines Ward started out in slot and was a master at that despite not having great speed. You need to grasp what the defense is doing quickly and finding that soft under belly of the coverage as well as giving your QB a clear path for the ball.
                          Chris Hogan is nothing special. He's fine as a #4/#5 but if he was actually forced into a bigger role it would be a poor move.


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                          • Buffalogic
                            Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 5345

                            #14
                            Re: Cap Question - Mike Williams

                            ^ Agree but he made an important catch during that Lions comeback so that was nice to see.

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                            • better days
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 22028

                              #15
                              Re: Cap Question - Mike Williams

                              Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
                              Chris Hogan is nothing special. He's fine as a #4/#5 but if he was actually forced into a bigger role it would be a poor move.
                              If Hogan was FORCED to a bigger role it would be because of injuries.

                              I think he would respond well. I think he is good enough to be a 3rd receiver on many teams like the Pats*

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