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  • stuckincincy
    Buffalo Bills Fan
    • Sep 2003
    • 15084

    So - we host NE with all their teeth intact

    Unlike CHI with ailing wrs, MIA missing their entire starting lbs, SD without RB Matthews and losing RB Woodhead on his 1st carry, HOU's rb Foster limited to pass patterns, DET without rbs Bell, Riddick, an ailing decoy receiver Calvin Johnson and the placekicker from hell and rb Bush unable to go in the 4th.

    How will BUF do against a team with full chops?
    Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.
  • Buffalogic
    Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
    • Feb 2006
    • 5345

    #2
    Re: So - we host NE with all their teeth intact

    ^ Their Oline is a mess.

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    • YardRat
      Well, lookie here...
      • Dec 2004
      • 86161

      #3
      Re: So - we host NE with all their teeth intact

      I don't think NE exactly qualifies as 'full chops' at the moment, but then again with Brady, Gronk and Belicheck they don't have to be.

      As always, the key to this game is going to come from the trenches. Our dline absolutely has to get to Brady rushing four, and the oline needs to step up, open some holes for FJ and CJ, and keep Orton mostly upright and un-harassed.
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      • YardRat
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        • Dec 2004
        • 86161

        #4
        Re: So - we host NE with all their teeth intact

        IMO this is a game where Dareus has to cement his status as 'elite', Richardson and Henderson prove they belong, and Watkins justifies the move up to get him.
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        • Luisito23
          Men Have Superbowl Gold, Legends Have Platinum Hearts!!!
          • Apr 2003
          • 7433

          #5
          Re: So - we host NE with all their teeth intact

          Originally posted by YardRat View Post
          IMO this is a game where Dareus has to cement his status as 'elite', Richardson and Henderson prove they belong, and Watkins justifies the move up to get him.

          Dareus is already elite and Watkins already justified the move to get him, the other two though, I agree with.
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          • BillsImpossible
            Registered User
            • Mar 2013
            • 16206

            #6
            Re: So - we host NE with all their teeth intact

            Patriots center, Bryan Stork was added to the injury list with a head injury.

            Is that an over simplified way of saying he has a concussion?

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            • stuckincincy
              Buffalo Bills Fan
              • Sep 2003
              • 15084

              #7
              Re: So - we host NE with all their teeth intact

              Originally posted by YardRat View Post
              I don't think NE exactly qualifies as 'full chops' at the moment, but then again with Brady, Gronk and Belicheck they don't have to be.

              As always, the key to this game is going to come from the trenches. Our dline absolutely has to get to Brady rushing four, and the oline needs to step up, open some holes for FJ and CJ, and keep Orton mostly upright and un-harassed.
              What they have, is a team not having to compensate for injuries. Their players may or may not be tops, but due to lack of injuries, they are a cohesive bunch who practice and play together. Poor as they say the NE OL is, they buzz-sawed a weakened CIN DL. Big time. And it wasn't just that CIN was hurting - they popped them with skill and coordination 'cause they have been together all season long. Same for their D.

              BUF needs a game from Dareus, plowing the interior protection back. CIN couldn't do that - forget their DT injury problems - because the NE staff had their C and G's max protect Brady, and it worked.

              I'd fire in a cb against them - they hunkered down on TE patterns and CIN wouldn't gamble on dropping coverage on their wide outs. NE established ownership of the middle, and put the CIN staff in a tizzy between pass or run.
              Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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              • YardRat
                Well, lookie here...
                • Dec 2004
                • 86161

                #8
                Re: So - we host NE with all their teeth intact

                Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
                What they have, is a team not having to compensate for injuries. Their players may or may not be tops, but due to lack of injuries, they are a cohesive bunch who practice and play together. Poor as they say the NE OL is, they buzz-sawed a weakened CIN DL. Big time. And it wasn't just that CIN was hurting - they popped them with skill and coordination 'cause they have been together all season long. Same for their D.

                BUF needs a game from Dareus, plowing the interior protection back. CIN couldn't do that - forget their DT injury problems - because the NE staff had their C and G's max protect Brady, and it worked.

                I'd fire in a cb against them - they hunkered down on TE patterns and CIN wouldn't gamble on dropping coverage on their wide outs. NE established ownership of the middle, and put the CIN staff in a tizzy between pass or run.
                If Stork can't go, that's pretty big injury to have to compensate for, especially considering how their oline played the first month of the season.
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                • Fletch
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                  • May 2007
                  • 3166

                  #9
                  Re: So - we host NE with all their teeth intact

                  Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                  IMO this is a game where Dareus has to cement his status as 'elite', Richardson and Henderson prove they belong, and Watkins justifies the move up to get him.
                  And suppose that doesn't happen, then what?
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                  Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
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                  The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                  You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                  Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                  The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                  ------

                  "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                  "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                  "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                  Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                  "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                  • Fletch
                    Registered User
                    • May 2007
                    • 3166

                    #10
                    Re: So - we host NE with all their teeth intact

                    Originally posted by Luisito23 View Post
                    Dareus is already elite and Watkins already justified the move to get him, the other two though, I agree with.
                    Dareus will be elite when he starts showing up for every game instead of just five a season. The guy just arbitrarily disappears for games and stretches at a time.

                    We'll see if this season is different. They already picked up the option on his 5th year someone reported.

                    Players like Watt are elite.
                    Last edited by Fletch; 10-11-2014, 07:39 AM.
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                    Post #46

                    Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                    (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                    Originally Posted by pmoon6
                    The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                    You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                    Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                    The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                    ------

                    "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                    "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                    "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                    Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                    "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                    • DynaPaul
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 7540

                      #11
                      Re: So - we host NE with all their teeth intact

                      Even with all their teeth they still look like a redneck who chews tobacco...

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                      • sudzy
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 2802

                        #12
                        Re: So - we host NE with all their teeth intact

                        Dareus is elite when he want to be. Put Kyle Williams heart in Dareus' body you'd have a hall of fame DT. This game is Marcell's to dominate if he wants. We'll see if he wants to or not.

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                        • CoolBreeze
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1262

                          #13
                          Re: So - we host NE with all their teeth intact

                          We need to win in the trenches both offense and defense. Their Oline is a huge question mark, and they are not 100% healthy. We should be able to exploit them early and often.

                          Cover Gronk, and Edelman tight, heck double cover Gronk. Too often against the Pats we get burned by the obvious. Since those guys take up 70% of the targets it's a safe bet.

                          Also it should be noted, we have been getting burn't by Brady for over a decade now. Over the course of that I've noticed Brady lives to destory us with 5-15 yard slant patterns. I can't believe how many times he's completed a 3rd down on one of those slants against us. I'd like to see that finally end for good tomorrow. I also would like to see him beaten down thoughout the game and end up on the bench pouting like a child. Lets hope both happen!

                          Go Bills!!

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                          • YardRat
                            Well, lookie here...
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 86161

                            #14
                            Re: So - we host NE with all their teeth intact

                            Originally posted by Fletch View Post
                            And suppose that doesn't happen, then what?
                            Then somebody else better step up and make plays if the Patriots game plan makes Dareus and Watkins disappear. If the oline doesn't play respectable, and nobody makes plays, they'll lose.

                            Why do you assume that anybody that thinks the Bills have a chance to win any given Sunday also believes there is no chance they will lose?

                            Jesus, get a grip.
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                            • BLeonard
                              BoB Sabermetrician
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 4625

                              #15
                              Re: So - we host NE with all their teeth intact

                              New England Patriots rookie center Bryan Stork will be unable to play tomorrow against Kyle Williams, Marcell Dareus, Brandon Spikes, and the Buffalo Bills


                              This week against the Buffalo Bills elite DT duo of Kyle Williams and Marcell Dareus (as well as former MLB Brandon Spikes bearing down the middle), the Patriots won’t have the promising Stork. According to the NFL Network’s Albert Breer, he was unable to make the trip to Buffalo with the rest of the team, meaning that he has been officially ruled out of tomorrow’s rivalry contest.

                              It’s a tough blow for the Patriots, but they can get through it despite being less prepared to deal with the Bills biggest strength. Stork, a fourth-rounder out of Florida State, was unable to pass through the league’s mandatory concussion protocol, so his status is worth watching until he receives official clearance. Sadly, his absence means that the Pats will be forced to play Jordan Devey (he’ll likely start) in some capacity, and that’s a shame; Devey looked terrible when he was thrust onto the field as a starter.
                              -Bill

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