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Flip a coin. Hoyer can play, dude is like 9-3 in his last 12 starts and getting Josh Gordon back.
Cleveland has a tough choice to make at the end of this year. Especially if they win 10 games.
I'd lean slightly toward Hoyer, I think he'll continue to get better. He's not Brady, but he's Brady like with his physical skills, intangibles and results.
Don't get me wrong, I love what Kyle is doing right now. He's been clutch. 2 game winning drives in 3 wins. He's turned Chandler back into a functional piece of the offense, and more importantly gotten Sammy the ball, who has proven to be a game breaker.
Flip a coin. Hoyer can play, dude is like 9-3 in his last 12 starts and getting Josh Gordon back.
Cleveland has a tough choice to make at the end of this year. Especially if they win 10 games.
Not sure that the choice is all that tough. Manziel's not going anywhere, so if they re-sign Hoyer to start, I'm sure he would. They can have both for a few seasons. Manziel wouldn't like it.
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Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
The Browns should just trade Manziel before anyone finds out he can't play.
Starting to think that's the case myself. I'm sure that they can get a 1st from someone even if only the Raiders, Redskins, or Dallas. Wasn't Jones in love with Manziel?
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Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
with romo's injury issues continuing and jerry jones somewhat infatuated and frustrated that he passed on manziel in the draft, i feel like the browns could just screw the cowboys, supremely.
which would be excellent news. i'm in the camp that johnny football is probably johnny college football and it doesn't translate well into consistent play as a pro.
Hoyer is a local boy who's been making good, and he's only 29. Manziel is popular but not so much so that it would upturn a wining Browns team. Cleveland will never let Hoyer walk, but dealing Manziel to the Cowboys would be an interesting end to this story.
Jim Kelly. Seriously, I think Orton much like Hoyer or Fitzy is a capable backup whom in a pinch can spot your starter a game or three without losing too much. I predict that Hoyer is less than a month from being found out and then he is in for a bad december and an abysmal, but perhaps well paid, 2015.
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