If Marrone Fails, Our Next HC Is Already Here

[Night Train]

Jim Schwartz is still just 48 years old and the D has never looked better.

D players will always play for coaches who make them look good and this way, a rebuild is avoided. Just find a good OC to get that unit going with Orton being a trusted play caller on his own.

I look at the Houston, Detroit,Minny & KC games and the horrid playcalling (IMO). We were lucky in 2 of those games but too many key moments where we embraced failure on the O side of the ball.

Don't start over. Keep this D in place and we'll be right there in games.

[Luisito23]

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It's not if, to me Marrone has already failed...and I love Schwartz as the DC but not HC, but really, he would be much better than what's already here.

[better days]

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Well, I have said before, the only way Marrone should be allowed to keep his job is to fire Hackett.

Marrone Coached the Bills to 6 wins last year. A MEDIOCRE Coaching job.

Marrone took over a TERRIBLE Syracuse team, but he did not lead them to a National Championship.

The Orange were a MEDIOCRE team under Marrone as the Bills are.

If the Bills fail to win at least 9 games this year, I think Marrone should be fired.

[Goobylal]

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If he/Whaley hires a competent OC, I'd be fine with Schwartz.

[Night Train]

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I agree with the thinking of " I like Schwartz as a DC but not a HC " but it can still work if the right OC is identified.

Perfect example is Marchibroda working for Marv...and don't try to tell me Marv was a HC not leaning heavily on his coordinators. We wouldn't have been heard of in the 1990's if Marchibroda wasn't on staff.

[Fletch]

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Well, I have said before, the only way Marrone should be allowed to keep his job is to fire Hackett.

Marrone Coached the Bills to 6 wins last year. A MEDIOCRE Coaching job.

Marrone took over a TERRIBLE Syracuse team, but he did not lead them to a National Championship.

The Orange were a MEDIOCRE team under Marrone as the Bills are.

If the Bills fail to win at least 9 games this year, I think Marrone should be fired.

For the record, this is the complete opposite of what you argued when Marrone was hired.

[better days]

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For the record, this is the complete opposite of what you argued when Marrone was hired.

NO it is not.

I was willing to give MArrone a chance to prove himself, but I was never a fan of his hire.

[Guest]

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As much as I would like to move on from Marrone, if he ends up at 7-9 or better this year, he will be back next year.

[trapezeus]

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if they fire marrone, they should let someone come in and clean up the whole thing or we'll just be back on this 3 year cycle.

going to schwartz may not be a great answer. the strongest part of the d is either the oldest or the part that will be hard to keep together based on the overall expenses. Is schwartz good enough to keep it going with a lot of player turnover?

in someways, this mediocre year was kind of going to be the last. and that's why we all wantd to push into the playoffs so badly. if it didn't happen this year and EJ didn't step up, the team's rebuild stalled. the d peaked and the offense is too far behind to be good enough to help the d.

what is even more upsetting is that even if the bills did make the playoffs, they were never even trying to be a legit contender. their stated goal was simply to make the playoffs. and if they do make the playoffs, orton will be a full fledged starting qb with a huge price tag for mediocrity. and dareus, hughes are big paychecks waiting to happen.

the bills went back to putting emphasis on glamour positoins like WR and RB, but left the line understaffed on a coaching standpoint. so no matter how many good WR we have or talented backs we have, our team struggles because the OL isn't coached well. and they knew this last year, but marrone was unwilling to part from his OC buddy.

[WagonCircler]

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For the first time in Bills history, we have an owner who isn't shy about spending the big bucks.

I say we shoot for the moon. There are dozens of possibilities out there.

It's hard to believe that, with a huge budget, the best possible option is Jim Schwartz.

He has done a great job with the Defense this year, but I think we can do better in the HC department.

[Buffalogic]

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Marrone sucks, Hackett sucks. They lucked into getting two good DC's. Keep Whaley, keep Schwartz, fire everyone else.

[justasportsfan]

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Nathaniel Hackett is still just 34 years old and the O has never looked better.

are you on drugs?

[trapezeus]

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if marrone loses to pettine, for me, that will be the final straw. i actually want to like marrone. he comes off as an interest head coach on WGR in the morning, etc. like orton, he seems likeable.

i know marrone is probably a .500 coach at best in the long run and i know orton is a 60% passer in the long run. doesn't mean i wouldn't love to see them have their outlier season happen right now.

but if marrone loses to pettine a guy a lot of us actually wanted to get the coaching position if he was being offered a HC elsewhere, then he can't even beat his own coordinators. And that's pretty unforgivable.

at that point, given the weakness of the offense (namely still no long term QB), and a great defense that peaked but will be too expensive to keep or too old when the offense catches up, it's worth starting over. and if we are starting over, let's get some winning names in here to clean up the organization top to bottom, and give the team a real coach.

[Mr. Cynical]

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are you on drugs?

[Mr. Cynical]

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No more retreads that couldn't cut it on other teams. Been there, done that. Fire Maroon, back up the money truck and buy one that can actually make the team better.