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  • Mahdi
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 10585
    #1

    This Offensive Line needs a Shuffle

    Right now, at all 5 positions we have a player either playing poorly or out of position.

    Cordy Glenn is just not playing well right now. He missed most of TC and it has had a big effect on him. Not the same pass blocker or run blocker.

    Urbik is not a LG. He needs to go back to RG.

    Pears is not a G, period. At this point he is not even starting quality in the NFL at any position.

    Wood is stuck between two weak links and his play is being affected.

    Henderson had a fast start and now he is looking like every bit the rookie he is. He is slow on the outside and is also not a good run blocker at this time.

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    I don't know if there is a solution but the Bills need to re-shuffle this thing somehow.

    Give Kouandjio a shot and we should be looking into Incognito to play LG and move Urbik to RG. Incognito is a solid run blocker and if this team doesn't run the ball they'll continue to lose.
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  • Dr. Lecter
    Zero for Zero!
    • Mar 2003
    • 67938
    #2
    Re: This Offensive Line needs a Shuffle

    I'm not sure Incognito is the answer

    No other team wants him. What makes him an upgrade, as horrible as Pears and Urbik have been?
    Originally posted by mysticsoto
    Lecter is right in everything he said.

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    • Mahdi
      Registered User
      • Mar 2004
      • 10585
      #3
      Re: This Offensive Line needs a Shuffle

      Originally posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
      I'm not sure Incognito is the answer

      No other team wants him. What makes him an upgrade, as horrible as Pears and Urbik have been?
      He's an upgrade because he is a natural LG and a natural run blocker which Urbik and Pears are not.

      Other teams don't want him because of the issue that happened last year. Denver brought him in for a look but they are good at G so for them it wasn't worth it. We don't have the luxury to be picky.

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      • better days
        Registered User
        • Jan 2010
        • 22028
        #4
        Re: This Offensive Line needs a Shuffle

        Ian Beckles, former OL for the Bucs has said he played for a number of OL Coaches in his career.

        He said many times a new Coach will want the players to use different techniques & blocking schemes than the last Coach did.

        That looks like the case here.

        I don't think Glenn & Wood all the sudden become MEDIOCRE.

        I think Marrone & his OL Coach want them using a different system than they used in the past.

        It should be obvious to all which is the better...at least for these players.
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        • DraftBoy
          Administrator
          • Jul 2002
          • 107452
          #5
          Re: This Offensive Line needs a Shuffle

          I thought Henderson had a good game last night in pass pro v. Wake.
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          • Bill Cody
            Registered User
            • Sep 2004
            • 11905
            #6
            Re: This Offensive Line needs a Shuffle

            Originally posted by Mahdi View Post

            Other teams don't want him because of the issue that happened last year.
            um yeah. He's an average player so the baggage outweighs any marginal benefit.

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            • Fletch
              Registered User
              • May 2007
              • 3166
              #7
              Re: This Offensive Line needs a Shuffle

              Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
              I thought Henderson had a good game last night in pass pro v. Wake.
              I agree. Orton, Mr. Sack, was sacked only twice on 39 attempts, that his best sack ratio of the season by a mile. Orton had much better protection than Tannehill did.
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              • Historian
                2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
                • Dec 2002
                • 61783
                #8
                Re: This Offensive Line needs a Shuffle

                Doesn't matter how many times you shuffle, if your cards are threes, fours, and twos...you still lose the hand.
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                • Mahdi
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 10585
                  #9
                  Re: This Offensive Line needs a Shuffle

                  Originally posted by Fletch View Post
                  I agree. Orton, Mr. Sack, was sacked only twice on 39 attempts, that his best sack ratio of the season by a mile. Orton had much better protection than Tannehill did.
                  The missing stat there is how many times he just threw the ball away or into the dirt... There was like 7 of those. So really, even though there was no sack on the play the result was the same.

                  The OL was terrible yesterday and is the main reason we have lost several games.

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                  • trapezeus
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 19525
                    #10
                    Re: This Offensive Line needs a Shuffle

                    not a OL expert, but how can we not have a single servicable area on the Line? they've already rotated through a little. doesn't that just point the figure to coaches? i think they could rotate the whole line again. but these coaches wouldn't put them in a position to succeed.
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                    • Swiper
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 33105
                      #11
                      Re: This Offensive Line needs a Shuffle

                      Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
                      Right now, at all 5 positions we have a player either playing poorly or out of position.

                      Cordy Glenn is just not playing well right now. He missed most of TC and it has had a big effect on him. Not the same pass blocker or run blocker.

                      Urbik is not a LG. He needs to go back to RG.

                      Pears is not a G, period. At this point he is not even starting quality in the NFL at any position.

                      Wood is stuck between two weak links and his play is being affected.

                      Henderson had a fast start and now he is looking like every bit the rookie he is. He is slow on the outside and is also not a good run blocker at this time.

                      -------------------------

                      I don't know if there is a solution but the Bills need to re-shuffle this thing somehow.

                      Give Kouandjio a shot and we should be looking into Incognito to play LG and move Urbik to RG. Incognito is a solid run blocker and if this team doesn't run the ball they'll continue to lose.
                      St Doug disagrees with you.

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                      • X-Era
                        What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 27670
                        #12
                        Re: This Offensive Line needs a Shuffle

                        Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                        I thought Henderson had a good game last night in pass pro v. Wake.
                        Henderson has far exceeded my expectations. Great add.

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                        • jimmifli
                          Registered User
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 7827
                          #13
                          Re: This Offensive Line needs a Shuffle

                          Cordy's never been much of a pass blocker, he was just good enough that under a quick hit scheme he was protected. And he was a mauler in the run game.

                          His pass blocking actually looks a little better, even if the stats don't quite show that. But where did his run blocking go? We miss that badly. It was nice to see him downfield on a few of those RB passes (tough to really call them screens), he seems to do well on that part of the game.

                          Also, I'd like to add that Chandler has fulfilled the role of the "pulling guard" a couple times over the last two games and those plays were successful runs. That's about the only positive things I can say about this team.
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                          • YardRat
                            Well, lookie here...
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 86197
                            #14
                            Re: This Offensive Line needs a Shuffle

                            Get a new oline coach, and 50-75% of the problem will be solved.

                            I should qualify that with a 'good' new oline coach, not just a warm body from Marrone's buddy network.
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                            • Scumbag College
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 4949
                              #15
                              Re: This Offensive Line needs a Shuffle

                              The OL was in shambles last year and Whaley, to his (somewhat) credit brought in four new guys. (Williams, Koundijo, Richardson, and Henderson.) Williams is on IR, Koundijo hasn't seen the field, Richardson obviously wasn't ready to play and is a project. Henderson has been the bright spot, the 7th round pick.
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