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  • Mahdi
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 10585

    Odell Bekham - Amazing

    I'm happy we have Sammy but this kid is ridiculous.

    Reminds me of a young, bigger Steve Smith.

    Everyone must watch the catch he just made on SNF.
  • Fletch
    Registered User
    • May 2007
    • 3166

    #2
    Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing

    Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
    I'm happy we have Sammy but this kid is ridiculous.

    Reminds me of a young, bigger Steve Smith.

    Everyone must watch the catch he just made on SNF.
    So if given the option now, you wouldn't trade Sammy for Beckum and a mid-round 1st and 4th next season?
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    Post #46

    Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
    (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
    Originally Posted by pmoon6
    The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

    You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

    Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

    The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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    "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

    "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

    "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

    Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

    "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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    • stuckincincy
      Buffalo Bills Fan
      • Sep 2003
      • 15084

      #3
      Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing

      Like Smith...does he constantly push off and get away with it?
      Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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      • imbondz
        Democrats are people too
        • Jan 2003
        • 26041

        #4
        Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing

        It was a crazy catch but I'd love to know how much glue or whatever they use was on those gloves.
        My faith doesn’t make me perfect, it makes me forgiven.

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        • Fletch
          Registered User
          • May 2007
          • 3166

          #5
          Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing

          Originally posted by imbondz View Post
          It was a crazy catch but I'd love to know how much glue or whatever they use was on those gloves.
          Those gloves are great. You've used 'em, haven't you? They're far better than that stick-um ever was. Wet leather is great for grip.
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          Post #46

          Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
          (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
          Originally Posted by pmoon6
          The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

          You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

          Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

          The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
          ------

          "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

          "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

          "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

          Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

          "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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          • Mahdi
            Registered User
            • Mar 2004
            • 10585

            #6
            Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing

            Originally posted by Fletch View Post
            So if given the option now, you wouldn't trade Sammy for Beckum and a mid-round 1st and 4th next season?
            Difficult question at this point. Bekham is clearly a star but I still feel Sammy is the better all around WR.

            Nor thing that needs to happen is that Marrone needs to make sure Sammy is targeted 15 times per game without exception.

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            • Fletch
              Registered User
              • May 2007
              • 3166

              #7
              Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing

              Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
              Difficult question at this point. Bekham is clearly a star but I still feel Sammy is the better all around WR.

              Nor thing that needs to happen is that Marrone needs to make sure Sammy is targeted 15 times per game without exception.
              I'm thinking that if there truly was a special WR in this past draft, Beckum is the one. He missed 4 games and is presently the Giants' leading receiver and may very well outperform all the other rookies on 4 fewer games.
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              Post #46

              Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
              (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
              Originally Posted by pmoon6
              The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

              You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

              Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

              The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
              ------

              "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

              "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

              "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

              Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

              "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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              • Mahdi
                Registered User
                • Mar 2004
                • 10585

                #8
                Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing

                Originally posted by Fletch View Post
                I'm thinking that if there truly was a special WR in this past draft, Beckum is the one. He missed 4 games and is presently the Giants' leading receiver and may very well outperform all the other rookies on 4 fewer games.
                Could be. I think when evaluators watch the two in college there is unanimous agreement that Watkins is the sure star. Bekham was probably seen as clearly talented but not a sure star.

                Of course that doesn't always mean it's reality once they get to the NFL.

                Still I think we got the better overall player for now.

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                • Joe Fo Sho
                  Making Spirits Bright
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 6194

                  #9
                  Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing

                  Originally posted by Fletch View Post
                  So if given the option now, you wouldn't trade Sammy for Beckum and a mid-round 1st and 4th next season?
                  I don't know how anyone wouldn't rather have that. I'd even go a step further and say that I wish we kept Stevie.

                  Right now we have Sammy Watkins, where we could have Beckham, Stevie, and our 1st round pick next year. This team is killing me.

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                  • The Jokeman
                    Registered User
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 9995

                    #10
                    Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing

                    Originally posted by Fletch View Post
                    I'm thinking that if there truly was a special WR in this past draft, Beckum is the one. He missed 4 games and is presently the Giants' leading receiver and may very well outperform all the other rookies on 4 fewer games.
                    Who else does Eli have to pass to though? When Cruz and Jennings went down with injury Eli had to look elsewhere. That's why studying just stats as stats isn't fair. Watkins has performed well as a number 1.

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                    • Fletch
                      Registered User
                      • May 2007
                      • 3166

                      #11
                      Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing

                      Originally posted by The Jokeman View Post
                      Who else does Eli have to pass to though? When Cruz and Jennings went down with injury Eli had to look elsewhere. That's why studying just stats as stats isn't fair. Watkins has performed well as a number 1.
                      Who else does Orton have to throw to? Nothing better than Eli has.
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                      Post #46

                      Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                      (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                      Originally Posted by pmoon6
                      The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                      You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                      Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                      The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                      ------

                      "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                      "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                      "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                      Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                      "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                      • The Jokeman
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 9995

                        #12
                        Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing

                        Originally posted by Fletch View Post
                        Who else does Orton have to throw to? Nothing better than Eli has.
                        Robert Woods is a serviceable player and we have RBs that we can dump passes to. Eli doesn't have that.

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                        • Fletch
                          Registered User
                          • May 2007
                          • 3166

                          #13
                          Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing

                          Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
                          Could be. I think when evaluators watch the two in college there is unanimous agreement that Watkins is the sure star. Bekham was probably seen as clearly talented but not a sure star.

                          Of course that doesn't always mean it's reality once they get to the NFL.

                          Still I think we got the better overall player for now.
                          That's clearly a very subjective statement though, you agree with that, right?

                          As to unanimous agreement, there's unanimous agreement every year regarding a bunch of draft picks, but reality never matches all of those unanimous, or even vast majority, agreements. That's what separates the better teams from teams like us, we seem to go chasing what others say instead of having people in place that can come to their own conclusions that may not agree with unanimity or majority.
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                          Post #46

                          Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                          (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                          Originally Posted by pmoon6
                          The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                          You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                          Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                          The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                          ------

                          "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                          "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                          "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                          Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                          "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                          • Mahdi
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 10585

                            #14
                            Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing

                            Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
                            I don't know how anyone wouldn't rather have that. I'd even go a step further and say that I wish we kept Stevie.

                            Right now we have Sammy Watkins, where we could have Beckham, Stevie, and our 1st round pick next year. This team is killing me.
                            Ya but Watkins to me looks like Dez Bryant. Just because Bekham is looking good it doesn't mean he's better.

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                            • Fletch
                              Registered User
                              • May 2007
                              • 3166

                              #15
                              Re: Odell Bekham - Amazing

                              Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
                              Ya but Watkins to me looks like Dez Bryant. Just because Bekham is looking good it doesn't mean he's better.
                              We'll see, but Watkins has been the least consistent of the top WRs coming out.
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                              Post #46

                              Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                              (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                              Originally Posted by pmoon6
                              The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                              You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                              Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                              The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                              ------

                              "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                              "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                              "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                              Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                              "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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