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  • BillsImpossible
    Registered User
    • Mar 2013
    • 16206

    What The Hell Is Wrong With The NFC South?

    Atlanta 4-7
    New Orleans 4-7
    Carolina 3-7
    Tampa Bay 2-9

    Holy crap that's bad. I thought Drew Brees was elite? I thought Cam Newton was supposed to be great with a really good defense?

    Anyone want Lovie Smith as the Bills head coach now?

    Why is the NFC South floating in the pooper bowl?

    You know what's going to happen.

    A bad team is going to win the division with a losing record, and a better team like Seattle, San Fran, Detroit, or God forbid, Dallas will be sitting at home watching the playoffs.

    The only remedy without changing the entire NFL playoff structure would be to add an extra wild card spot for each conference, and I think that is fair.

    A 10-6 team is going to be out of the playoffs, while a 7-9 team advances?

    Screw that, give me 2 more playoff games to watch please and thank you.

    And what's up with the NFL's Wild Card Saturday? Never felt right, too busy of a day for me, and I often forget about the games.

    Teams go all season playing on Sunday, maybe a game on Monday, and 1 game on Thursday. NFL playoff games on Saturday suck.

    Add a new wild card playoff game for each conference, and play the games on a Sunday at 12:30, 4:30, and 8:30.

    Everyone including the fans and networks win.
  • stuckincincy
    Buffalo Bills Fan
    • Sep 2003
    • 15084

    #2
    Re: What The Hell Is Wrong With The NFC South?

    Look on the bright side. When a near .500 team wins than division, we can moan for months about how BUF would have made the playoffs. Good stuff, eh?
    Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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    • Fletch
      Registered User
      • May 2007
      • 3166

      #3
      Re: What The Hell Is Wrong With The NFC South?

      Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
      Look on the bright side. When a near .500 team wins than division, we can moan for months about how BUF would have made the playoffs. Good stuff, eh?
      LOL
      http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

      Post #46

      Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
      (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
      Originally Posted by pmoon6
      The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

      You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

      Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

      The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
      ------

      "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

      "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

      "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

      Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

      "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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      • Fletch
        Registered User
        • May 2007
        • 3166

        #4
        Re: What The Hell Is Wrong With The NFC South?

        Originally posted by BillsImpossible View Post
        Atlanta 4-7
        New Orleans 4-7
        Carolina 3-7
        Tampa Bay 2-9

        Holy crap that's bad. I thought Drew Brees was elite? I thought Cam Newton was supposed to be great with a really good defense?

        Anyone want Lovie Smith as the Bills head coach now?

        Why is the NFC South floating in the pooper bowl?

        You know what's going to happen.

        A bad team is going to win the division with a losing record, and a better team like Seattle, San Fran, Detroit, or God forbid, Dallas will be sitting at home watching the playoffs.

        The only remedy without changing the entire NFL playoff structure would be to add an extra wild card spot for each conference, and I think that is fair.

        A 10-6 team is going to be out of the playoffs, while a 7-9 team advances?

        Screw that, give me 2 more playoff games to watch please and thank you.

        And what's up with the NFL's Wild Card Saturday? Never felt right, too busy of a day for me, and I often forget about the games.

        Teams go all season playing on Sunday, maybe a game on Monday, and 1 game on Thursday. NFL playoff games on Saturday suck.

        Add a new wild card playoff game for each conference, and play the games on a Sunday at 12:30, 4:30, and 8:30.

        Everyone including the fans and networks win.
        NO has lost four games by 3 points or less.

        None of those teams has much in the way of D or a running game. Newton's been struggling mightily all season long and has been injured all season. Tampa has no good QBs.

        Just goes to show that just because a team has a QB like Ryan or Brees that they're not assured of being good like so many seem to suggest.
        http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

        Post #46

        Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
        (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
        Originally Posted by pmoon6
        The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

        You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

        Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

        The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
        ------

        "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

        "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

        "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

        Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

        "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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        • BertSquirtgum
          Registered User
          • May 2009
          • 13379

          #5
          Re: What The Hell Is Wrong With The NFC South?

          No team under .500 should be allow in the playoffs.

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          • IlluminatusUIUC
            Registered User
            • Sep 2012
            • 8966

            #6
            Re: What The Hell Is Wrong With The NFC South?

            The South was hit with a lot of major player losses coupled with a particularly rough schedule draw (NFC North and AFC North). The class of the division is clearly New Orleans, but when you have a positive point differential and are at one point 3 games under .500 then you obviously have had a serious run of bad bounces or un-clutch defense. New Orleans has had 3 games where they lost a lead after the 2 minute warning.


            Billszone 2013 Prediction Contest winner!

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            • Ingtar33
              Dances With Buffaloes
              • Sep 2002
              • 15469

              #7
              Re: What The Hell Is Wrong With The NFC South?

              Originally posted by BillsImpossible View Post
              Atlanta 4-7
              New Orleans 4-7
              Carolina 3-7
              Tampa Bay 2-9
              probably going to be a 6 win team taking that division.
              My wife told me that if I had a dollar for every girl who found me unattractive, girls would find me VERY attractive.

              MY WIFE SAID THAT!!!

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              • gebobs
                One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
                • Sep 2003
                • 11520

                #8
                Re: What The Hell Is Wrong With The NFC South?

                Originally posted by Ingtar33 View Post
                probably going to be a 6 win team taking that division.
                LOL, that would be sweet. The Saints finish Panthers, @Bears, Falcons, @Bucs. They should be 8-8.
                Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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                • WagonCircler
                  Escaped Convict
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5876

                  #9
                  Re: What The Hell Is Wrong With The NFC South?

                  Amazing. Carolina has Scam Newton.

                  He was supposed to revolutionize to QB position. And change the game. And be worshipped as "an entertainer and an icon" (his words).

                  How could this be?

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                  • Gibby
                    Power & Authority Demand Responsibility to the common good, and must never be abused.
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 18211

                    #10
                    Re: What The Hell Is Wrong With The NFC South?

                    Originally posted by BertSquirtgum View Post
                    No team under .500 should be allow in the playoffs.
                    I agree. The seventh seed in the other conference should take your spot if you can't finish above .500. This would be an interesting wrinkle as two teams from the same division could possibly play in a superbowl under the right circumstances, but it would be kind of fun. The only other way I can figure is a play in game but this is not baseball or basketball or even hockey and that would not happen. So really, the threshold should be 9 wins to qualify for a playoff spot. You only go 7-9, 8-8, or God forbid 6-10 (that is very possible with the NFC south this year) you should not qualify and the seventh seed from the other conference gets your spot.

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                    • Gibby
                      Power & Authority Demand Responsibility to the common good, and must never be abused.
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 18211

                      #11
                      Re: What The Hell Is Wrong With The NFC South?

                      Originally posted by WagonCircler View Post
                      Amazing. Carolina has Scam Newton.

                      He was supposed to revolutionize to QB position. And change the game. And be worshipped as "an entertainer and an icon" (his words).

                      How could this be?
                      He got figured out. Oh don't get me wrong, he was surprisingly better than I thought he would be and did okay. However, the game has proven too cerebral for him. I know some are waiting in the wings to say "THAT'S RAYCISS" but please understand Warren Moon was largely a pocket passer and Randall Cunningham (later in his career) had the brains to rely on his reads and arm did just fine. However, the option read run first qb is an anomaly that will get you a few wins early on, but if you don't get them to make the transition to shoot primarily, run occasionally, to keep defenses off balance then you have a qb who is either going to have a very short career because of injury (see RGIII, to be fair Shanahan killed his career and if I were RGIII I would sue that organization), or one who will be riding the pine fairly quickly (see Geno, EJ, Vick, Tebow, Flutie etc). True, it helps to have a qb who can roll out or sidestep a pass rush, but if he can't stay in the pocket and rely on his arm he is not going to do much. I mean think about it Tom Brady and Peyton Manning (its already a forgone conclusion that one of these will be playing in the Superbowl) are pure pocket passers and both are first ballot hall of famers. Kelly lost four superbowls (but was good enough to go to four straight) and was a toughguy pocket passer. Randall Cunningham didn't make the superbowl once, and he was razzle dazzle.

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                      • The Jokeman
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 9995

                        #12
                        Re: What The Hell Is Wrong With The NFC South?

                        Originally posted by WagonCircler View Post
                        Amazing. Carolina has Scam Newton.

                        He was supposed to revolutionize to QB position. And change the game. And be worshipped as "an entertainer and an icon" (his words).

                        How could this be?
                        Maybe because Carolina has been horrible giving him anything to work with. They've stuck with two below average RBs and sure got Cam Benjamin this year and arguably he also has Olsen. Yet they've done little to build their offensive line either. That said Newton throws a lot of INTs which hurts him game too. Also the NFL is a passing league and always be a passing league because the talent on D makes running QBs not as valuable as in the college game. That said if Cam was available and had a choice of him over Orton? I'd likely take Cam.
                        Last edited by The Jokeman; 12-02-2014, 06:38 PM.

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                        • don137
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 7720

                          #13
                          Re: What The Hell Is Wrong With The NFC South?

                          The crappy NFC South is a big reason why AFC North records are so good. They play each other and one can tell by the records the AFC North has dominated the NFC South.

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                          • Forward_Lateral
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 29895

                            #14
                            Re: What The Hell Is Wrong With The NFC South?

                            What's wrong with it? What isn't wrong with it is a better question.

                            Brees is getting old. Every team in the division has a garbage Defense. Cam Newton is a totally different player when he's forced to stay in the pocket. Matt Ryan is a choke artist. Tampa Bay is a joke.

                            That entire division is a dog turd.

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                            • BillsOverDolphins
                              chop chop
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 2256

                              #15
                              Re: What The Hell Is Wrong With The NFC South?

                              Cam Newton is an abortion...can't wait to see the buyer's remorse in Carolina once they give him his payday. Good to see Steve Smith and LaFell show their talent w/o that one-trick pony holding them back.
                              Oh no!...We suck again!

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