What would it require for Marrone/Whaley to keep their jobs?

[BuffaloRedleg]

So we're 7-5. It's not a particularly strong 7-5, but who's ever is? We don't get credit for close losses so I for the most part don't mind giving credit for close wins. That's just the way the NFL is, so I'll just leave it at that. With some exceptions you are what your record says you are.

How does the rest of the season need to play out for the Bills for you to think that Marrone/Whaley should remain on board?

Should they already be secure even if we lose out?

Will 9-7 do it? That means we'll have beat 1 of the 3 best teams in the league and I'm assuming the Raiders. Not good enough for playoffs, but enough to keep their jobs? Does it matter which of the 3 teams the win is over? I'm on the fence on this. I think that I would have to see how it plays out before I make a call on this record. If we played all of our last games pretty well but just get beat close then I think 9-7 is good enough for me.

Will 10-6 do it? That would require a Herculean effort by the team, but would it save their jobs? I'd like to see someone argue how 10-6 would not be enough that they should keep their jobs, but I know there are some guys around here who will do so. Playoffs or no, I believe they should keep their jobs without question at 10-6.

If not 10-6, would 11-5 do it? That's winning out. Come on, if you think they should be fired after that I don't know what to tell you.

Before some of you get your panties in a bunch, I'm not saying the Bills will do these things. At least one person is going to respond "not worth talking about because there is no chance" and that is completely missing the point.

We are just talking hypothetical. I'm trying to gauge where people are at with the duo currently. I think it's good to get these things on record for when we argue about it inevitably at the end of the season.

[Typ0]

Re: What would it require for Marrone/Whaley to keep their jobs?

already secure.

[TacklingDummy]

Re: What would it require for Marrone/Whaley to keep their jobs?

Why would they be going anywhere?

[BuffaloRedleg]

Re: What would it require for Marrone/Whaley to keep their jobs?

Why would they be going anywhere?

If they lost all of their remaining games you wouldn't think they should be fired?

I sure would.

[TacklingDummy]

Re: What would it require for Marrone/Whaley to keep their jobs?

If they lost all of their remaining games you wouldn't think they should be fired?

I sure would.

Regardless how they finish, being the new owner I would be firing Whaley for trading away next years 1st and 4th to move up to draft a WR when they don't have a Quarterback.

No coach is going to succeed without a QB, so I would give Doug a pass this year.

[BuffaloRedleg]

Re: What would it require for Marrone/Whaley to keep their jobs?

Regardless how they finish, being the new owner I would be firing Whaley for trading away next years 1st and 4th to move up to draft a WR when they don't have a Quarterback.

No coach is going to succeed without a QB, so I would give Doug a pass this year.

So if they went 11-5 you would still fire Whaley for trading that pick? I mean, if we're going to get that hypothetical then what if they won the Superbowl?

Your mind is that made up to the point that absolutely nothing they can do will change that?

Interesting.

[TacklingDummy]

Re: What would it require for Marrone/Whaley to keep their jobs?

So if they went 11-5 you would still fire Whaley for trading that pick? I mean, if we're going to get that hypothetical then what if they won the Superbowl.

I'm not playing the what if game, I'm playing the what I would do game.

I'd fire Whaley for what I stated above.

[BuffaloRedleg]

Re: What would it require for Marrone/Whaley to keep their jobs?

I'm not playing the what if game, I'm playing the what I would do game.

I'd fire Whaley for what I stated above.

Why would you respond to a thread where you refuse to address the presented topic?

It's a simple question. If the Bills made the playoffs, would you still fire Whaley?

[imbondz]

Re: What would it require for Marrone/Whaley to keep their jobs?

No one on this board thought we'd be 7-5 at this point. 7-9 / 8-8 Marrone keeps his job.

[TacklingDummy]

Re: What would it require for Marrone/Whaley to keep their jobs?

Why would you respond to a thread where you refuse to address the presented topic?

It's a simple question. If the Bills made the playoffs, would you still fire Whaley?

I told you if I was owner I'd fire him regardless how they finished.

[YardRat]

Re: What would it require for Marrone/Whaley to keep their jobs?

They are safe for next season at this point, and both should be.

[Fletch]

Re: What would it require for Marrone/Whaley to keep their jobs?

What would it require for Marrone/Whaley to keep their jobs?

You know my take from our conversations.

Whaley's two biggest moves easily have been Manuel and Watkins and he's choked on both. Not on Watkins because he's bad, but because there were at minimum equal, likely better, WRs available with our original pick last year. He could have done equal and maybe better and kept our picks. He promised playoffs as a result and won't have delivered. He should be fired. He even says so himself, so it shouldn't be a big surprise.

Marrone can be fired this year or next, it won't matter. He's been in over his head since he was hired. Poor hire to begin with, so why not move on from it.

[BuffaloRedleg]

Re: What would it require for Marrone/Whaley to keep their jobs?

I told you if I was owner I'd fire him regardless how they finished.

Yep. Got it. You'd fire him for the Watkins trade even if the Bills win the Superbowl.

[BuffaloRedleg]

Re: What would it require for Marrone/Whaley to keep their jobs?

You know my take from our conversations.

Whaley's two biggest moves easily have been Manuel and Watkins and he's choked on both. Not on Watkins because he's bad, but because there were at minimum equal, likely better, WRs available with our original pick last year. He could have done equal and maybe better and kept our picks. He promised playoffs as a result and won't have delivered. He should be fired. He even says so himself, so it shouldn't be a big surprise.

Marrone can be fired this year or next, it won't matter. He's been in over his head since he was hired. Poor hire to begin with, so why not move on from it.

So would you still consider it a failure if the Bills finish 10-6? What about 11-5?

Although we can safely assume we know how the season ends, I'm not asking that. I'm asking what it would take for them to keep their jobs.

[WagonCircler]

Re: What would it require for Marrone/Whaley to keep their jobs?

10-6 would be the Mendoza line for me. They would have to beat two damn good teams to get there.

I don't think they will.

That said, I also think Whaley and Marrone, despite being the very definition of mediocrity, will get to stay anyway.