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YardRat
12-28-2014, 06:27 PM
He's going to be available tomorrow when Atlanta cleans out their staff.

Sign him, Tuesday morning.

Novacane
12-28-2014, 06:28 PM
As what? OL coach?

stuckincincy
12-28-2014, 06:28 PM
The ole' ticket scalper...

DraftBoy
12-28-2014, 06:28 PM
I'm assuming you're talking about him as an OL coach?

YardRat
12-28-2014, 08:45 PM
Hell yeah, oline coach.

DraftBoy
12-28-2014, 08:51 PM
Hell yeah, oline coach.

How much of the Falcons did you watch this year?

They allowed more QB hits this year (89) than we did (85). They allowed 8 less sacks, and had a 0.3 YPC better average than we did on 30 less carries.

Link to the stats:
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&role=TM&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_QBHIT

YardRat
12-28-2014, 09:11 PM
How much of the Falcons did you watch this year?

They allowed more QB hits this year (89) than we did (85). They allowed 8 less sacks, and had a 0.3 YPC better average than we did on 30 less carries.

Link to the stats:
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&role=TM&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_QBHIT

They were hit kind of hard by injuries (especially at center), yet still improved as the season progressed. Neither can be said about Buffalo's current oline.

http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/article-1/Stones-Play-Pivotal-in-Improved-Offensive-Line/808d7ba8-2c03-4a2d-a6cc-2eb3f39ab845

Throughout the week of preparation for the Green Bay Packers, Falcons head coach Mike Smith and offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter each praised the improved work by the team's offensive line. The position group has seen more than its fair share of changes this season due to five injuries within the group and two specifically at the center position. <nobr>Joe Hawleyhttp://www.atlantafalcons.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif (http://www.atlantafalcons.com/team/roster/joe-hawley/f011d04e-541e-4f39-ad11-b9dfdf56fb86/)</nobr>'s season ended after a Week 4 knee injury. Less than one month later, <nobr>backup (http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/article-1/Stones-Play-Pivotal-in-Improved-Offensive-Line/808d7ba8-2c03-4a2d-a6cc-2eb3f39ab845#)</nobr> center <nobr>Peter Konzhttp://www.atlantafalcons.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif (http://www.atlantafalcons.com/team/roster/peter-konz/a101f953-0870-400b-9c93-e4e824de06df/)</nobr> was done for the year after suffering a knee injury in Week 7.
Since then, <nobr>undrafted rookie (http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/article-1/Stones-Play-Pivotal-in-Improved-Offensive-Line/808d7ba8-2c03-4a2d-a6cc-2eb3f39ab845#)</nobr> center James stone has stepped in to lead the group in remarkable fashion.

Bring him in.

swiper
12-29-2014, 04:20 AM
He's going to be available tomorrow when Atlanta cleans out their staff.

Sign him, Tuesday morning.

Hated him when he coached the Vikings. He's done nothing to change that since. WHY would anyone want that heaping pile of garbage? Did you see all that offensive Falcon talent just play terribly? Yeah. Has Tice's fingerprints all over it.

Historian
12-29-2014, 04:22 AM
Pass.

swiper
12-29-2014, 04:38 AM
They were hit kind of hard by injuries (especially at center), yet still improved as the season progressed. Neither can be said about Buffalo's current oline.

http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/article-1/Stones-Play-Pivotal-in-Improved-Offensive-Line/808d7ba8-2c03-4a2d-a6cc-2eb3f39ab845

Throughout the week of preparation for the Green Bay Packers, Falcons head coach Mike Smith and offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter each praised the improved work by the team's offensive line. The position group has seen more than its fair share of changes this season due to five injuries within the group and two specifically at the center position. <nobr>Joe Hawleyhttp://www.atlantafalcons.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif (http://www.atlantafalcons.com/team/roster/joe-hawley/f011d04e-541e-4f39-ad11-b9dfdf56fb86/)</nobr>'s season ended after a Week 4 knee injury. Less than one month later, <nobr>backup (http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/article-1/Stones-Play-Pivotal-in-Improved-Offensive-Line/808d7ba8-2c03-4a2d-a6cc-2eb3f39ab845#)</nobr> center <nobr>Peter Konzhttp://www.atlantafalcons.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif (http://www.atlantafalcons.com/team/roster/peter-konz/a101f953-0870-400b-9c93-e4e824de06df/)</nobr> was done for the year after suffering a knee injury in Week 7.
Since then, <nobr>undrafted rookie (http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/article-1/Stones-Play-Pivotal-in-Improved-Offensive-Line/808d7ba8-2c03-4a2d-a6cc-2eb3f39ab845#)</nobr> center James stone has stepped in to lead the group in remarkable fashion.

Bring him in.

While he has gotten praise for assembling a rag-tag team of mostly back-ups this season, he's not been all that. He's a buffoon. There are lot's of good o-line coaches out there. Bring in another one. Moreover, we all (myself included) do focus attention at the current Bills o-line coach. But it may, in fact, be a scheme issue more than anything. And no one will deny there are some personnel issues as well.


Stock watch: The offensive line, which had made dramatic strides under offensive line coach Mike Tice, took a significant step back against the Panthers. The front five allowed quarterbackMatt Ryan (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11237/matt-ryan) to be harassed all day. In turn, Ryan never got into a rhythm and forced throws. Ryan joined rookie Blake Bortles (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/16724/blake-bortles) of Jacksonville and Geno Smith (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/15864/geno-smith) of the New York Jets (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets) as the only quarterbacks to throw multiple interceptions returned for touchdowns in a game this season. Yes, Ryan's stock plummeted too, but the offensive line surely didn't help his cause.

http://espn.go.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/post/_/id/11110/rapid-reaction-atlanta-falcons-21

RedEyE
12-29-2014, 04:52 AM
Atlanta has one of the worse OLs in the league. Tice is on his way out of this league in my opinion and is not an upgrade over what the Bills currently have.

YardRat
12-29-2014, 05:18 AM
While he has gotten praise for assembling a rag-tag team of mostly back-ups this season, he's not been all that. He's a buffoon. There are lot's of good o-line coaches out there. Bring in another one. Moreover, we all (myself included) do focus attention at the current Bills o-line coach. But it may, in fact, be a scheme issue more than anything. And no one will deny there are some personnel issues as well.



http://espn.go.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/post/_/id/11110/rapid-reaction-atlanta-falcons-21

I absolutely agree that scheme is an issue, and to a certain extent personnel also, but I've been scouring the league for offensive line coaches that might be available to bring in and haven't had much success finding anybody with a resume. I'm not married to Tice, so if anybody has any better options that they are aware of I'm all ears.

Meathead
12-29-2014, 08:17 AM
if he had a son do you think he would bite off anybodys ear?

DraftBoy
12-29-2014, 09:05 AM
They were hit kind of hard by injuries (especially at center), yet still improved as the season progressed. Neither can be said about Buffalo's current oline.

http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/article-1/Stones-Play-Pivotal-in-Improved-Offensive-Line/808d7ba8-2c03-4a2d-a6cc-2eb3f39ab845

Throughout the week of preparation for the Green Bay Packers, Falcons head coach Mike Smith and offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter each praised the improved work by the team's offensive line. The position group has seen more than its fair share of changes this season due to five injuries within the group and two specifically at the center position. <nobr>Joe Hawleyhttp://www.atlantafalcons.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif (http://www.atlantafalcons.com/team/roster/joe-hawley/f011d04e-541e-4f39-ad11-b9dfdf56fb86/)</nobr>'s season ended after a Week 4 knee injury. Less than one month later, <nobr>backup (http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/article-1/Stones-Play-Pivotal-in-Improved-Offensive-Line/808d7ba8-2c03-4a2d-a6cc-2eb3f39ab845#)</nobr> center <nobr>Peter Konzhttp://www.atlantafalcons.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif (http://www.atlantafalcons.com/team/roster/peter-konz/a101f953-0870-400b-9c93-e4e824de06df/)</nobr> was done for the year after suffering a knee injury in Week 7.
Since then, <nobr>undrafted rookie (http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/article-1/Stones-Play-Pivotal-in-Improved-Offensive-Line/808d7ba8-2c03-4a2d-a6cc-2eb3f39ab845#)</nobr> center James stone has stepped in to lead the group in remarkable fashion.

Bring him in.

Yea but they also had Sam Baker regress and brought in the top FA guard last year (Jon Asamoah) who also arguably regressed.

I'm not against Tice but he doesn't come without his warts.

swiper
12-29-2014, 12:57 PM
He and Marrone remind of each other. Marrone is the bully, boorish o-line coach who now gets his HC gig. In a few years he will be right where Tice is now.

Famous Amos
12-29-2014, 02:30 PM
How bout this guy?
https://cbshouston.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/carl-mauck-sized-getty-01.jpg?w=400&h=300&crop=1

YardRat
12-29-2014, 04:10 PM
Yea but they also had Sam Baker regress and brought in the top FA guard last year (Jon Asamoah) who also arguably regressed.

I'm not against Tice but he doesn't come without his warts.

Who doesn't? Do you have any better experienced candidates on your radar?

DraftBoy
12-29-2014, 04:17 PM
Who doesn't? Do you have any better experienced candidates on your radar?

Yea, Mike Solari from the 49ers would be an ideal candidate.

5th in YPC this year at 4.6 ypc.

Also familiarity with Iupati who he could potentially help recruit during the FA period.

YardRat
12-29-2014, 06:35 PM
Yea, Mike Solari from the 49ers would be an ideal candidate.

5th in YPC this year at 4.6 ypc.

Also familiarity with Iupati who he could potentially help recruit during the FA period.

I'd be OK with that.